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If I leave my ignition keys with family and use the habitation key to get to bed in the street. Am I liable if I've had over the legal limit although I don't have the key to the engine.
Steph
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But the offence is drunk in charge, driving is a different offence, but same outcomeI thought if you didn't have the keys the intention to drive is not there so couldn't be prosecuted.
It's all been covered before on numerous threads . . there is the write up by Jim but it's obviously not black and white. The house of Lords has previously ruled there must be an intention to drive and that's always going to be down to the opinion of an officer at the time. In reality if you're sleeping in a motorhome overnight regardless if wether the keys are in the van or not then you're going to be fine. if you're going to be drinking heavily then you're going to have more problems if you drive off in the morning. but that's a different offence
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But the offence is drunk in charge, driving is a different offence, but same outcome
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Being in charge of a vehicle with excess alcohol
Being in charge of a vehicle whilst unfit by reason of excess alcohol is defined as driving or attempting to drive a motor vehicle on the public highway or a public place whilst under the influence of alcohol exceeding the prescribed limit. Even if you are not driving the vehicle, but are in the vehicle on the public highway/public place, you can be deemed to be "incharge" of the vehicle.
The maximum penalties are:
• 10 penalty points; and
• discretionary disqualification; and
• a fine of up to £2,500; and/or
• 3 months imprisonment.
Perfectly correct
If I leave my ignition keys with family and use the habitation key to get to bed in the street. Am I liable if I've had over the legal limit although I don't have the key to the engine.
Steph
I've been to Farnborough, but only for a short period, DERA featured more in events of those daysCompletely and wildly off topic, Just noticed something .. @pyro
RAE ..... 1980 or 1981 ?
RAE.. Radio Amateurs Exam G6F .. I passed in '81 and got G6HML.. Got the G4 about 2 years laterCompletely and wildly off topic, Just noticed something .. @pyro
RAE ..... 1980 or 1981 ?
Do a search on here. 100+ posts will say yes. 100+ posts will say no. 100+ posts will say you are totally anti-social going near a motor vehicle after consuming alcohol. 100+ will say "no chance of being caught".
So choose the answer that pleases you.
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Ahhhh! Got Ya! Saw some of your kit in that post, impressive, then read another post of yours re CNB - you'd said it all, We do have common ground then, brilliant deductionRAE.. Radio Amateurs Exam G6F .. I passed in '81 and got G6HML.. Got the G4 about 2 years later
Do a search on here. 100+ posts will say yes. 100+ posts will say no. 100+ posts will say you are totally anti-social going near a motor vehicle after consuming alcohol. 100+ will say "no chance of being caught".
So choose the answer that pleases you.
or
E-mail the chief constable of the area and ask him, then you will know for definite or perhaps you won't.
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It's been explained quite clearly above. you are confusing ownership and sections of the law regarding drink drive.Surely you are in charge of all your vehicles all the time. I know I am in charge of my motorhome, motorbike and both cars right now. They are on the drive, in the garage and again on the drive respectively. Nobody else can use them unless I say so. So I am always in charge of them. When can I have a few drinks and stay within the letter of the law re drunk in charge?
Well, their goes me Christmas snort then.......The changes included: a new roadside testing kit, which could detect the presence of cocaine
Toots.......so sorry to disappoint you, but that white stuff you were sniffing that made your nose go all cold and numb, was in fact snow.Well, their goes me Christmas snort then.......
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The powder was WHITE. The snow I eat is always YELLOW. My God man, do you think I cant tell the difference between coke and dog p**s??Toots.......so sorry to disappoint you, but that white stuff you were sniffing that made your nose go all cold and numb, was in fact snow.
And the snowman was very upset that you also ate his nose
So does that mean the other 22% are accurate?Statistics have shown that 25% of road collisions are drink related.
So that means the other 75% haven't had a drink.
So Statistically Im safer having a drink aren't I? Hic.
But then again, its also been found that 85% of statistics are misleading.