Why?

[maison]

On our way back from our recent Scottish trip we stayed at the wonderful C&CC site at Keswick. Fantastic views and an easy walk into Keswick.

First of all......

Why, in February, when the site is only one third full is there a requirement for a minimum three night booking? We only needed one night.

But, even more annoying .........

why had the motorhomes, who had picked the lakeside pitches, then donned “silver screens” so that they couldn’t see the view that they had prevented other users enjoying?

Wonderful views along the lake and they seemed to prefer sitting inside watching TV.

 

[PeteH]

As we say Here in "gods county". "Nowt so funny as folk". Like you I cannot understand the 3 day rule?. One could book 3 days and change your mind on arrival?. That would mean other campers would be shut out!. No logical reason. IMV.

 

[maison]

As we say Here in "gods county". "Nowt so funny as folk". Like you I cannot understand the 3 day rule?. One could book 3 days and change your mind on arrival?. That would mean other campers would be shut out!. No logical reason. IMV.

You are right.

We had to pay for three nights. The weather forecast was so bad, (snow forecast), that we left for our 320 mile journey home after one night. No refund!

Our choice to move on, I know, but we will not do it again. (But, there again, having had the fees for three nights, and only one used, the C&CC have nothing to lose.)

 

[davejen]

You are lucky to stay 1 night- it is usually flooded!
Cheers, Dave

 

[ABZSteve]

On our way back from our recent Scottish trip we stayed at the wonderful C&CC site at Keswick. Fantastic views and an easy walk into Keswick.

Agree, two excellent sites next to each other.

First of all......

Why, in February, when the site is only one third full is there a requirement for a minimum three night booking? We only needed one night.

Did you ask why at reception?

But, even more annoying .........

why had the motorhomes, who had picked the lakeside pitches, then donned “silver screens” so that they couldn’t see the view that they had prevented other users enjoying?

Did you knock on their door and ask why they were using their motorhome as they wished?

Wonderful views along the lake and they seemed to prefer sitting inside watching TV.

Did you knock on their door and tell them, how dare you use your motorhome as you wish to use it?

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[The Wino]

You are right.

We had to pay for three nights. The weather forecast was so bad, (snow forecast), that we left for our 320 mile journey home after one night. No refund!

Our choice to move on, I know, but we will not do it again. (But, there again, having had the fees for three nights, and only one used, the C&CC have nothing to lose.)

If the same happens I think you can move forward the other 2 days at no charge (but might be wrong) then cancel and get a refund!
Worth a try.

 

[maison]

Agree, two excellent sites next to each other.



Did you ask why at reception?




Did you knock on their door and ask why they were using their motorhome as they wished?

Agree, two excellent sites next to each other.



Did you ask why at reception?




Did you knock on their door and ask why they were using their motorhome as they wished?



Did you knock on their door and tell them, how dare you use your motorhome as you wish to use it?

I can only surmise that they were not serious questions.

Would reception, (a local point of contact, at best) , have any influence on the Club Rules?

Would you have knocked on the door of the those blocking the view for others?

FYI I have queried with the CC&C about the 3 night rule but, as yet, have had no reply.

Was that a serious enquiry or are you just trolling a genuine question about why persons block the pleasure of others simply because they arrive first but prefer TV to the natural scenery around them? If you wish to use your motorhome to sit inside and watch TV then why not stay at home?

I don’t decry anyone the choice to do what you want but, if you prefer TV to nature, then please leave the nature to those that prefer it.

 

[DavidG58]

we did negotiate down to 2 nights last year, so they will, but only through head office, the three night rule is local and seemingly not official classic jobsworths in reception Dec 18

as for the silver screen brigade, it is different only wrong to you (and us in this instance)

 

[Pausim]

why had the motorhomes, who had picked the lakeside pitches, then donned “silver screens” so that they couldn’t see the view that they had prevented other users enjoying?

I prefer to look at the view and a window vac quickly gobbles up any codensation.

 

[Speve]

We use a silver screen with a privacy screen that you can see through and pull the full screen up at night is that not allowed either???

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[PeteH]

I can see some way on both sides. But if you are going to block off your veiw? why park where there IS one?. I supose it`s the old Story. `cos I can?. As said "nowt so funny as folk".

 

[maison]

We use a silver screen with a privacy screen that you can see through and pull the full screen up at night is that not allowed either???

Absolutely it is.

But the screens stayed up.

We used to have screens similar to yours so understand your point.

Screens that are put up on arrival, and never lowered, make me wonder what is the point of travelling. You can get the same view in your drive.

 

[Pausim]

Stay at home and put silver screens on the windows for 2 weeks? Save on the diesel.

 

[ABZSteve]

Yes, serious questions, why would they not be, yours were genuine also , right? Why would I knock on their door? I am not the one moaning just because others do things differently; and can you clarify who’s view they were blocking? Did they park across your or “others” pitches or did they pay for their own pitch and use their motorhome that they payed for to use as they see fit within club rules, rhetorical

Further, you were there one night, so you really know nothing of what was actually going on now do you? And don’t play the troll card, that’s extremely poor form.

Nothing wrong with what they were doing, not happy, move on.

 

[Kai Morrison]

Yes, serious questions, why would they not be, yours were genuine also , right? Why would I knock on their door? I am not the one moaning just because others do things differently; and can you clarify who’s view they were blocking? Did they park across your or “others” pitches or did they pay for their own pitch and use their motorhome that they payed for to use as they see fit within club rules, rhetorical

Further, you were there one night, so you really know nothing of what was actually going on now do you? And don’t play the troll card, that’s extremely poor form.

Nothing wrong with what they were doing, not happy, move on.

If someone came knocking on my door telling me what I should be doing or how I should be spending my time my god I’d ensure they’d be getting closer to nature by helping them take a dip in the lake....it doesn’t come across very “funster” I know but your comment maison is laughable

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[TinaLes]

I was considering giving The CCC membership a try for 2020, as I am just about to leave The CMC after 4 years of hardly using their sites, and when we have, we have paid an average of £27-£33 per night for the two of us, for facilities we dont need (i.e.no discount for not needing an EHU or Shower Blocks)
I liked the idea of the CCC summer THS concept, and the over 60's discount (every little helps) but if there is a minimum of booking for 3 nights at some sites(other than maybe Bank Hols) that would not suit us, as we like to tour a region, rather than caravan style park if you get my drift, been there done that.
We haven't used CL, or CS's as they are normally(there are exceptions) well away from town/city we want to visit, hence why we have had to use a CMC site now and again.

I have never had a bad experience or attitude problem so far with indie sites in The UK, so I shall stick to finding and using them, as we dont even need any facilities other than water & a black waste dump

Apart from wilding as much as possible, we will continue to travel to indie sites, or cross the channel, using Tesco points on the chunnel, and of course some of the great FUN rallies that are in the diary each year.

Each to their own, but IMHO the clubs are pricing many members away, couples like us, with no kids, no pets, as they are not offering discounts for those of us that dont need or wish to use the facilities that are included, like it or not, in the overall price.
I am sure I am not alone in thinking this way, but best wishes, & happy travels to all that will I am sure will remain loyal members to the clubs as it suits them to do so.
LES

 

[PeteH]

Club site pricing is a Hoary old theme that comes up periodically. On the Clubs part, they have to maintain sites, some all year round, and that expense is not cheap. There are many who are quite happy with "full fat" facilities, some even never ever use the built in facilities in their Vans!. I haven't looked at either of the clubs accounts recently, but I doubt if they are running huge excess?. There too is refurbishment going on in both, again not cheap to do. I believe the pricing structure reflects this.

Despite the foregoing, I too think there could be a place for "simple" places. Mostly for "one night" stops, which small fee would include water and dump. Whether this would or could be introduced by both or either would depend on demand. Show there to be a demand and it just might get considered?.

Thought, some will be going to the NEC. How about asking, if you are a member, OR enquiring if you are not on the basis that my joining would depend on such being available. Any thing that does happen, will only be through "feedback".

 

[ABZSteve]

If someone came knocking on my door telling me what I should be doing or how I should be spending my time my god I’d ensure they’d be getting closer to nature by helping them take a dip in the lake....it doesn’t come across very “funster” I know but your comment maison is laughable

To be fair KM, it was me who brought up knocking on the door, but yes, the thought of someone doing that to complain about "their" view being blocked is laughable all the same

 

[Simon Meadwell]

If you had an option of a cheaper pitch at sites for not having access to showers the same old crew would pay the cheaper option and still use the showers to difficult a system to operate imo

 

[Shrimp]

Minimum of 3 night bookings and the ability to keep a booking open in spite of probably having no intention of using it....both should be abolished!
We needed somewhere to stay-in a certain area-and as all sites were mostly closed-winter- full we thought C&CC clubsite, ‘no sorry we are full‘.
When talking to neighbour (on CL) he said ’oh, really. I always keep a booking open there in case I need it’.........words failed me!!!

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[Pausim]

Minimum of 3 night bookings and the ability to keep a booking open in spite of probably having no intention of using it....both should be abolished!

I agree. Time to start charging deposits like the CCC. The popular sites like York and Bristol are plagued with this blocking. We booked York months in advance but friends were told a few days later they were fully booked. When we visited there were 3 or 4 vacant pitches.

 

[Spriddler]

I expect they had seen quite enough water. I have.

 

[chaser]

If you only want to stop one night why use a campsite at all, plenty pubs will let you stay for one night, free to boot.
Silver screen I just got to agree with, when you see vans pull up and immediately block all the view out, why?

 

[maison]

Yes, serious questions, why would they not be, yours were genuine also , right? Why would I knock on their door? I am not the one moaning just because others do things differently; and can you clarify who’s view they were blocking? Did they park across your or “others” pitches or did they pay for their own pitch and use their motorhome that they payed for to use as they see fit within club rules, rhetorical

Further, you were there one night, so you really know nothing of what was actually going on now do you? And don’t play the troll card, that’s extremely poor form.

Nothing wrong with what they were doing, not happy, move on.

OK.

I accept they were serious questions.

However I would point out that I was not “complaining” as such, about people taking up pitches and blocking the view for others, but asking why, having done so, they then block out their own view. You will see that if you reread the OP.

But, if you thought my post intolerant of others that was not my intention.

 

[maison]

If you only want to stop one night why use a campsite at all, plenty pubs will let you stay for one night, free to boot.
Silver screen I just got to agree with, when you see vans pull up and immediately block all the view out, why?

Accepted chaser. We usually use pubs for overnights but, on that occasion we were intending to stay for the three nights, but left after one because of a forecast of snow, a 320 mile journey home and a hospital appointment to keep.

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[maison]

If someone came knocking on my door telling me what I should be doing or how I should be spending my time my god I’d ensure they’d be getting closer to nature by helping them take a dip in the lake....it doesn’t come across very “funster” I know but your comment maison is laughable

Perhaps you think so but if you read all the posts you will see that knocking on the door was not my idea. It was in response to someone asking if I had knocked on their door. I was suggesting that such an idea is indeed laughable.

 

[iandsm]

On our way back from our recent Scottish trip we stayed at the wonderful C&CC site at Keswick. Fantastic views and an easy walk into Keswick.

First of all......

Why, in February, when the site is only one third full is there a requirement for a minimum three night booking? We only needed one night.

But, even more annoying .........

why had the motorhomes, who had picked the lakeside pitches, then donned “silver screens” so that they couldn’t see the view that they had prevented other users enjoying?

Wonderful views along the lake and they seemed to prefer sitting inside watching TV.

So had I been one of the motorhomes that arrived before you should I have avoided taking a lakeside pitch just in case I may later have wanted to use my screens and therefore offend someone who didn't want to use screens that might arrive after me. And had I taken a lakeside pitch should I have avoided using screens to demonstrate that my choice of pitch was fully justified.

Should I have avoided using the chemical emptying point or any other facility in case you wanted to use it and my prior use might cause you a short delay.

Actually they hadn't prevented you from seeing anything, it was simply that you arrived too late to tale a lakeside pitch.

 

[My Dog Likes Fishing]

I'm off to Keswick early doors tomorrow. Got my screens ready and I'm towing a smarty. Gonna leave my waste tap open and my mains lead coiled up. Gonna slam my side door and watch my tele. That should fill the forum up tomorrow night

 

[Simon Meadwell]

Take your boat its flooded

 

[The Wino]

I'm off to Keswick early doors tomorrow. Got my screens ready and I'm towing a smarty. Gonna leave my waste tap open and my mains lead coiled up. Gonna slam my side door and watch my tele. That should fill the forum up tomorrow night

Were you a punk rocker by any chance!!!! Anarchy in the CMC!!!

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