Starlink ordered… I feel it’s the only sensible option now..

If traveling in hot climates attach the mini allowing a bit of space (2-3 cm at least) between the mini and the skylight, otherwise it may overheat pretty fast. This is from my personal experience.
Thanks for the tip.
 
I'm pleased that others have had more success than I have. All I can say with certainty is that Free had been abysmal across all of the Loire and Brittany and that has been either via roaming (from 3) or using native Free sims and esims in both phones and motorhome WiFi. I now have the dilemma of going down the starlink route or trying another mobile provider on our next trip. Umm .....
Confirmed: Free is the cause of the abysmal mobile performance.

I installed a couple of apps to view the signal strength and other metrics that I previously when setting up my home mobile internet setup. I tested and collected the data for both the Free SIM and the original 50GB per month Lebara UK SIM (which uses Orange in France) using both my phone and the MiFi and the results were like chalk and cheese. Great signal strength and performance on Lebara; the opposite on Free.

Based on that and the two month limit and high cost of Starlink I shall be sticking with mobile for my internet access but ensuring I get a decent provider next time!
 
Received this today from the Spanish registered dish
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So looking like you can no longer pause without cost
I’m using the French mini and not received this but now wondering if the French/spanish registered dish option will still work out cheaper
Also has anyone been cut off for going over 60 days out of country yet?
 
I got the same email last night (UK registered) Looks like there is no choice but comply with switch to standby subscription, we are crossing over to France in 2 weeks, am thinking I'll go for the standby subscription, then close account an re-register in France at my friends address, for the cheaper roam connection, but will take advise on the latter, if thats the way to go?
 
I received the email too. Interesting that this is different to the previous lower cost mode which was offered when I paused after our latest trip, but was not compulsory. If I remember correctly this was something like £8.50 a month for 10 GB of data per month, but with full normal download speeds.

Seems that nobody was going for that, so they have come with this new offer which you now have no choice but to sign up for by Sept 13th. If you don't your account will be closed, with no certainty that you can get registered and connected in a timely manner next time you want the full roaming service.

It seems this will now cost £4.50, at least for the moment! It is different in that it has unlimited data, but limited speed, so for example probably not fast enough for streaming. I have suspected for some time that they have developed the ability to do speed limiting as my Mini used to regularly get speeds over 200 Mbit/s, sometimes as much as 300 Mbit/s, and now never seems to get more than 100 Mbit/s, often a bit less.

A nice little earner for Musk if every roaming customer now has to pay a monthly rental charge for a limited speed standby service which they don't actually need!

They mention that this will allow updates to be installed as required, so I guess at least it should stop the annoyance of multiple updates being installed every time you unpause the service, as happens at the moment. It also means you can be assured that your service is actually working when you unstandby it for a trip. At the moment I always pay extra to unpause a few days before a trip so I can be sure it is working and can get any updates loaded before I hit the road.

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I will use it this year then decide if It's going to stay as we only use it in Spain once a year as I don't need it in the UK, but I don't want to pay 60 euros a year for nothing or to use it once a year as that makes no sense. I think he's got everyone there pausing, and now he wants more money but to not give people a choice i think is a bit much but i guess the choice is to cancel it which i think we will do after Jan.
 
I will use it this year then decide if It's going to stay as we only use it in Spain once a year as I don't need it in the UK, but I don't want to pay 60 euros a year for nothing or to use it once a year as that makes no sense. I think he's got everyone there pausing, and now he wants more money but to not give people a choice i think is a bit much but i guess the choice is to cancel it which i think we will do after Jan.
We have just come over and activated the French registered mini. We are here for 3 months heading to Spain/portugal.
I have the Spanish registered gen 2 with me. The intention was to use it for a month resetting my 60 days but I’ve yet to hear of anyone being cut off.

For me the mini is just great so will stick with it and possibly sell the gen 2. Just need more info on the 60 day limit. As we want to do Norway for 3 months next year obviously with a French registered mini risk being cut off
 
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We have just come over and activated the French registered mini. We are here for 3 months heading to Spain/portugal.
I have the Spanish registered gen 2 with me. The intention was to use it for a month resetting my 60 days but I’ve yet to hear of anyone being cut off.

For me the mini is just great so will stick with it and possibly sell the gen 2. Just need more info on the 60 day limit. As we want to do Norway for 3 months next year obviously with a French registered mini risk being cut off
If the mini does not fall under the same banner (which i expect it will) as the gen2/3 then i will get one :) pretty sure it's going to apply to all.

Seems as though if they cancel the line you can just reactivate it, so I will test this out in December and see how long it takes for them to reactivate it.
 
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If the mini does not fall under the same banner (which i expect it will) as the gen2/3 then i will get one :) pretty sure it's going to apply to all.

Seems as though if they cancel the line you can just reactivate it, so I will test this out in December and see how long it takes for them to reactivate it.
I have had an email regarding updating terms on the French mini to include new standby mode but didn’t give a price.

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Happy with my £12 a month all unlimited ID sim, no problems Italy, France and Spain for 59 days, everything hooked up to router/hub, when within a mile of 5g mask, receive 500Mbit/s or more, 4G 50Mbit/s to 200Mbit/s, was only two black spots, one in crossing the Alps 20Mbit/s, and the other north Spain in the Pyrénées, was really bad.
 
Happy with my £12 a month all unlimited ID sim, no problems Italy, France and Spain for 59 days, everything hooked up to router/hub, when within a mile of 5g mask, receive 500Mbit/s or more, 4G 50Mbit/s to 200Mbit/s, was only two black spots, one in crossing the Alps 20Mbit/s, and the other north Spain in the Pyrénées, was really bad.
I’m sure you are but it’s not starlink is it.
I’ve used 60 gb in 4 days unlimited no fair use policy 250-300 download and the football and f1 are not on atm
 
Happy with my £12 a month all unlimited ID sim, no problems Italy, France and Spain for 59 days, everything hooked up to router/hub, when within a mile of 5g mask, receive 500Mbit/s or more, 4G 50Mbit/s to 200Mbit/s, was only two black spots, one in crossing the Alps 20Mbit/s, and the other north Spain in the Pyrénées, was really bad.
Id be happy with the same, but i need fast speeds, and lots of data..I had the EE unlimited eu and ROW if needed the little.drop outs and slower speeds don't work for me. Handy for quick checks when out and about, but for full service I have to hand it to Musky boy
 
I’m sure you are but it’s not starlink is it.
I’ve used 60 gb in 4 days unlimited no fair use policy 250-300 download and the football and f1 are not on atm
No it is not Starlink, I think for the price it's better, for only £12 a month unlimited Europe with no fair use policy, with speeds to match or even better, it's a no brainer, pulled in to a layby and done test, This is a screen shot of my mobile about an hour ago using the motorhome Wi-Fi router/Hub with external antennae, I can live with this, I think it is a great speed, lets see what your mobile does connected to Starlink, It would be interesting to see your speed?
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Id be happy with the same, but i need fast speeds, and lots of data..I had the EE unlimited eu and ROW if needed the little.drop outs and slower speeds don't work for me. Handy for quick checks when out and about, but for full service I have to hand it to Musky boy
I have unlimited roaming, and I have gone beyond 90 days, with no problems, still only £12 a month, we could have a competition on up loading or down loading a 4k movie if you like, and video screen how long it takes, then you would know if your being mugged.

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I have unlimited roaming, and I have gone beyond 90 days, with no problems, still only £12 a month, we could have a competition on up loading or down loading a 4k movie if you like, and video screen how long it takes, then you would know if your being mugged.
Im fine thanks, I have been through the cheap route before. (except mine was/is £10 pm unlimited) If that suits you for what you use, what you need and where you travel, then thats great, Im sure there are threads about sims and cheap deals you could pass on your advice in. Lebara rings a bell ?

I dont do much TV, or know much about this "4k" competition you spoke of, but I know what I need and what I need to pay and am happy to pay, its not usual for me to get "mugged off" and I know when I am or when Im not.

in this case specifically, with starlink, Im not :) its the best bar none for my case, including where multiple devices can connect to it.... and yours is good for you. Perfect.

SPain France Germany etc etc all lost power a few months back, no phones, no internet zero electric etc etc. Great usage case
my 12v starlink & solar kept lots of families in touch when millions lost contact via sim.
 
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Just for information:

I signed up for the compulsory low speed service, a bit sooner than the mandated 13.09.25 date, but only cost about £3:50 up to my monthly renewal date.

I was interested to see slow is the low speed service. The answer is very slow indeed! Starlink's own speed test came back with 0.8 Mbit/s for both download and upload. Ookla measured it at about 0.3 Mbit/s.

This is not useful for any real world use, not even basic web browsing, so I think Musk is just taking the piss here. The full service at £96 per month is supposed to get you at least 100 Mbit/s. By my estimation that means that paying £4.50 per month should at least get you 4.68 Mbit/s which would be moderately useful. What a con!
 
Just for information:

I signed up for the compulsory low speed service, a bit sooner than the mandated 13.09.25 date, but only cost about £3:50 up to my monthly renewal date.

I was interested to see slow is the low speed service. The answer is very slow indeed! Starlink's own speed test came back with 0.8 Mbit/s for both download and upload. Ookla measured it at about 0.3 Mbit/s.

This is not useful for any real world use, not even basic web browsing, so I think Musk is just taking the piss here. The full service at £96 per month is supposed to get you at least 100 Mbit/s. By my estimation that means that paying £4.50 per month should at least get you 4.68 Mbit/s which would be moderately useful. What a con!
I’m unsure what happens if I don’t sign up. I know it says my paused service line will be cancelled, does that mean I can simply reinstate when I’m ready or alternatively choose a different plan.
 
I’m unsure what happens if I don’t sign up. I know it says my paused service line will be cancelled, does that mean I can simply reinstate when I’m ready or alternatively choose a different plan.
I think it basically means that your dish will become disconnected from the Starlink system, and removed from your account. If this is the case you would then have to apply to add it to your account when you next want to use it, but there is no guarantee that it would be accepted. I think it depends on how many other users are in your vicinity and the amount of capacity Starlink have to service your location. If computer says no, then just like a completely new user, you may have to wait to be connected. I think this is more likely to be an issue for residential users than roaming users.

The following is the info on the Starlink website:

How does pause service work?
You can pause your service with Standby Mode, which provides unlimited low-speed data for emergency messaging and easy reactivation in dead zones for a small monthly fee.

Which plans support pausing?
You can pause with Standby Mode on all Roam, Residential, and Priority plans (excluding promotional offerings).

Note: Business customers and Enterprise accounts cannot pause with Standby Mode.

How to pause service with Standby Mode (website)
In just a few clicks, you can easily pause with Standby Mode:

Log into your account on starlink.com
Select "Subscriptions" and then select the service line you want to pause
Select "Manage"
Choose "Pause Current Service"
Click Confirm
How to un-pause and resume high-speed service (website)
In just a few clicks, you can easily un-pause with Standby Mode and resume high-speed service:

Log into your account on starlink.com
Select "Subscriptions" and then select the service line you want to un-pause
Select "Manage"
Choose "Resume Service"
Select your desired service plan, then click "Confirm"
What does easy reactivation in dead zones mean?
You can complete 2-factor authentication via email, even without cellular coverage.
Full access to the Starlink app and account portal
Easily switch to high-speed plans
If I pause my service with Standby Mode and then resume, will I have to pay a demand surcharge?
No. If you pause your service with Standby Mode and later resume high-speed service, even in an area where demand surcharges apply, you will not have to pay the surcharge.

What happens if I want to resume high-speed service after pausing with Standby Mode, but my area is at capacity for Residential plans?
Pausing with Standby Mode does not reserve your spot on a Residential plan. If your area is at capacity when you try to resume, you may not be able to reactivate your previous Residential plan. However, you'll be able to resume service immediately on any plan available in your area.

Will my Starlink still get software updates if my service is paused or canceled?
Yes. As long as your Starlink terminal is plugged in and able to connect to the network, it will continue to receive software updates, regardless of whether your service is active, paused with Standby Mode, or even fully canceled. This ensures your hardware stays up to date and ready to perform whenever you choose to reconnect.

Important Notes:

Standby Mode, where available, offers speeds up to 500 Kbps download and upload.
You may resume service and change your plan at any time.
If you restart your service before your next billing cycle, you'll be charged your usual monthly fee.
Pausing service before the end of your current billing period allows you to receive service for the remainder of that period.
Upon resuming service, the monthly subscription fee is charged immediately, on a pro-rated basis.
Starlink subscriptions billing is tied to UTC time; changes must be made before 12:00 AM UTC on your billing day. Changes made after midnight will be delayed until the next billing day.
Data blocks purchased before pausing will not roll over upon reactivation.
Standby Mode does not include high-speed or overage data. You can un-pause and resume service for high-speed plans.
Note: We recently upgraded pause to include Standby Mode. Previously, the pause feature offered zero data at no cost. If pausing with Standby Mode does not meet your needs, you are able to cancel at no cost.

Customers on the previous pause plan (no data at no cost) have until September 13, 2025 to switch to pausing with Standby Mode. If you do not opt-in by this date, your paused service line will be cancelled.

Pausing service with Standby Mode is not available in the following countries. In these locations, customers with Roam and Priority plans can pause their service at no cost but will not receive any data while paused. Residential customers in these countries cannot pause.
 
I think it basically means that your dish will become disconnected from the Starlink system, and removed from your account. If this is the case you would then have to apply to add it to your account when you next want to use it, but there is no guarantee that it would be accepted. I think it depends on how many other users are in your vicinity and the amount of capacity Starlink have to service your location. If computer says no, then just like a completely new user, you may have to wait to be connected. I think this is more likely to be an issue for residential users than roaming users.

The following is the info on the Starlink website:

How does pause service work?
You can pause your service with Standby Mode, which provides unlimited low-speed data for emergency messaging and easy reactivation in dead zones for a small monthly fee.

Which plans support pausing?
You can pause with Standby Mode on all Roam, Residential, and Priority plans (excluding promotional offerings).

Note: Business customers and Enterprise accounts cannot pause with Standby Mode.

How to pause service with Standby Mode (website)
In just a few clicks, you can easily pause with Standby Mode:

Log into your account on starlink.com
Select "Subscriptions" and then select the service line you want to pause
Select "Manage"
Choose "Pause Current Service"
Click Confirm
How to un-pause and resume high-speed service (website)
In just a few clicks, you can easily un-pause with Standby Mode and resume high-speed service:

Log into your account on starlink.com
Select "Subscriptions" and then select the service line you want to un-pause
Select "Manage"
Choose "Resume Service"
Select your desired service plan, then click "Confirm"
What does easy reactivation in dead zones mean?
You can complete 2-factor authentication via email, even without cellular coverage.
Full access to the Starlink app and account portal
Easily switch to high-speed plans
If I pause my service with Standby Mode and then resume, will I have to pay a demand surcharge?
No. If you pause your service with Standby Mode and later resume high-speed service, even in an area where demand surcharges apply, you will not have to pay the surcharge.

What happens if I want to resume high-speed service after pausing with Standby Mode, but my area is at capacity for Residential plans?
Pausing with Standby Mode does not reserve your spot on a Residential plan. If your area is at capacity when you try to resume, you may not be able to reactivate your previous Residential plan. However, you'll be able to resume service immediately on any plan available in your area.

Will my Starlink still get software updates if my service is paused or canceled?
Yes. As long as your Starlink terminal is plugged in and able to connect to the network, it will continue to receive software updates, regardless of whether your service is active, paused with Standby Mode, or even fully canceled. This ensures your hardware stays up to date and ready to perform whenever you choose to reconnect.

Important Notes:

Standby Mode, where available, offers speeds up to 500 Kbps download and upload.
You may resume service and change your plan at any time.
If you restart your service before your next billing cycle, you'll be charged your usual monthly fee.
Pausing service before the end of your current billing period allows you to receive service for the remainder of that period.
Upon resuming service, the monthly subscription fee is charged immediately, on a pro-rated basis.
Starlink subscriptions billing is tied to UTC time; changes must be made before 12:00 AM UTC on your billing day. Changes made after midnight will be delayed until the next billing day.
Data blocks purchased before pausing will not roll over upon reactivation.
Standby Mode does not include high-speed or overage data. You can un-pause and resume service for high-speed plans.
Note: We recently upgraded pause to include Standby Mode. Previously, the pause feature offered zero data at no cost. If pausing with Standby Mode does not meet your needs, you are able to cancel at no cost.

Customers on the previous pause plan (no data at no cost) have until September 13, 2025 to switch to pausing with Standby Mode. If you do not opt-in by this date, your paused service line will be cancelled.

Pausing service with Standby Mode is not available in the following countries. In these locations, customers with Roam and Priority plans can pause their service at no cost but will not receive any data while paused. Residential customers in these countries cannot pause.
So, reading this I think reconnection may only be an issue on the residential plan as paying this new tariff is no guarantee of reconnection. looks like roam won’t be impacted.

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I am waiting to see someone's speedtest screenshot from their phone using the Starlink wifi, I submitted my screenshot using 5G with only two bars, come on now, I want to see the difference, and if it is worth me changing.
 
I am waiting to see someone's speedtest screenshot from their phone using the Starlink wifi, I submitted my screenshot using 5G with only two bars, come on now, I want to see the difference, and if it is worth me changing.

I’m not sure quite what you’re trying to prove?

I think everyone is aware of the performance opportunity 5G provides for data in the perfect world scenario…. On a thread dedicated to Starlink, it’s not very helpful!

Starlink provides ubiquitous coverage and virtually guaranteed level of service. There is a premium to pay for this in terms of cost, the need to buy from Elon and 500-600w of power used in an average day!

I’m pleased you’re happy with your 5G cellular service, I wasn’t and I’m now delighted with my Starlink service over the last two and a half years! ✔️
 
I am waiting to see someone's speedtest screenshot from their phone using the Starlink wifi, I submitted my screenshot using 5G with only two bars, come on now, I want to see the difference, and if it is worth me changing.
what your saying is, your dad is bigger than my dad ? :LOL:

I dont think Ive ever seen 300+ on mine, 200+ yeah, 100+, 30+, 0+ yeah.

Maybe I should find all the sim card threads and go over and dis them for being cheap and nasty, (as my experience) but that would be a waste of my time.

Dunno if its just me, But do I sense a muskophobe here ? :innocent:
 
lets see what your mobile does connected to Starlink,
I rarely use it connected to as I have Digi & get good speeds around 190>300+ when out & about:3€/month There is no real mobile signal at home so I use mobile over wifi on our starlink.
We use starlink at home as nothing else we have tried over 23 years works, whereas the starlink we've never had any type of problem/outage/buffering in 2 years we have had it.
Which plans support pausing?
You can pause with Standby Mode on all Roam, Residential, and Priority plans (excluding promotional offerings).
Nice to see it is available on 0resedential0 butI won't be bothering with it & will just park it up & pay the monthly fee when it is not being used
I am waiting to see someone's speedtest screenshot from their phone using the Starlink wifi, I submitted my screenshot using 5G with only two bars, come on now, I want to see the difference, and if it is worth me changing.
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Bear in mind that I am on "deprioritised" & only pay 29€/month for unlimited data
 
I’m still looking for anyone who has had a problem going over the 60 days limit out of country.

Nobody on here reported back a problem so far also looked on Facebook starlink with nobody reporting it being an issue.
I have until the 13/09 to find out if I have to pay for the standby mode on the Spanish registered gen 2

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I’m still looking for anyone who has had a problem going over the 60 days limit out of country.

Nobody on here reported back a problem so far also looked on Facebook starlink with nobody reporting it being an issue.
I have until the 13/09 to find out if I have to pay for the standby mode on the Spanish registered gen 2

I asked this exact question on Starlink UK Facebook group yesterday.. it took a lot of crap responses to get back to two people who have roamed out of their home country for more than 60 days. Both confirmed that post the changes they have done this 3&5 months respectively this year and their service wasn’t restricted!

So, my plan on 27th August when we hit French soil is to reactivate the Spanish one and see if I can roam out of country again. I shut this one down in early June after nearly eight weeks use in France of my Spanish service!

I will carry a ‘new’ dish (previously a UK service dish) with me and use it if I can’t reconnect the original one! ✔️
 
I rarely use it connected to as I have Digi & get good speeds around 190>300+ when out & about:3€/month There is no real mobile signal at home so I use mobile over wifi on our starlink.
We use starlink at home as nothing else we have tried over 23 years works, whereas the starlink we've never had any type of problem/outage/buffering in 2 years we have had it.

Nice to see it is available on 0resedential0 butI won't be bothering with it & will just park it up & pay the monthly fee when it is not being used

View attachment 1103086Bear in mind that I am on "deprioritised" & only pay 29€/month for unlimited data
Thankyou that is all I needed to see, because I don't have Starlink I can't compare with what I have, I have the same setup at home as in the Van, and the home system is better then the Virgin Fibre Broadband I used to have, and saved a whole lot of money, But we may be moving some time in the near future, and I am looking at all options.
 
what your saying is, your dad is bigger than my dad ? :LOL:

I dont think Ive ever seen 300+ on mine, 200+ yeah, 100+, 30+, 0+ yeah.

Maybe I should find all the sim card threads and go over and dis them for being cheap and nasty, (as my experience) but that would be a waste of my time.

Dunno if its just me, But do I sense a muskophobe here ? :innocent:
I want to know the in's & out's of everything electronic, as I don't have Starlink, so I can't compare real life use, I'm looking for answers, not foolish answers, I can't help it if you feel so small.
 
I want to know the in's & out's of everything electronic, as I don't have Starlink, so I can't compare real life use, I'm looking for answers, not foolish answers, I can't help it if you feel so small.
Oh, you should have said? theres me thinking you were on a wind up on a thread you dont even want anything know about? my bad :rolleyes:
here you go, feed your addiction.


Fastest Speeds​

Residential / Standard Starlink


  • Typical download speeds range between 45 Mbps and 280 Mbps, with most users seeing over 100 Mbps. Upload speeds typically land between 10 and 30 Mbps. Latency usually runs 25–60 ms on land.

  • Some user reports (e.g. Reddit) mention variability: “lowest around 35 Mbps and highest around 240 Mbps,” with average user experiences around 50–60 Mbps, even during heavy use like multiple simultaneous HD streams or gaming.

Starlink Business & Performance Tiers


  • Starlink Business offers speeds from 150 Mbps up to 500 Mbps

  • The Starlink Performance Kit (likely a newer business-grade option) is stated to support download speeds of 400+ Mbps, with plans for gigabit-level speeds rolling out (service plan upgrades expected in 2026, no hardware changes needed).

  • Other sources mention a potential max of 300 Mbps for residential and 500 Mbps for business users.

Maximum Simultaneous Connections​


  • The built-in Starlink Wi‑Fi router is dual-band (2.4 GHz and 5 GHz) and reportedly supports up to 128 devices connected simultaneously.

Real-World Capacity & Congestion​

Even though the hardware can technically handle many devices, actual performance depends heavily on network congestion:

  • So while a typical household might be fine with dozens of devices, in densely populated areas or shared networks, speeds can suffer .

Summary Table​

Tier / ContextDownload SpeedUpload SpeedSimultaneous DevicesNotes
Residential / Standard45–280 Mbps (typical >100)10–30 MbpsUp to 128 devicesPopular speeds around 50–60 Mbps
Business / Performance Kit150–500 Mbps (up to 400+)Up to 128 devicesFuture plans aim for gigabit speeds
Business (some sources)Up to 500 MbpsMatches other business speed estimates

Bottom Line​



  • Fastest speeds available today: Up to 500 Mbps on business tiers, 400+ Mbps with the Performance Kit.

  • Typical residential speeds: Often 100–280 Mbps down, but real-world averages may be closer to 50–100 Mbps, especially as device count grows.

  • Simultaneous connections: Router supports up to approximately 128 devices, but overall performance is subject to congestion in your area

Typical Latency Ranges

Service TierAdvertised LatencyReal-World ObservationsNotes
Residential / Standard25–60 ms30–50 ms typical, occasional spikes to 80–120 msHeavily affected by congestion and weather
Business / Priority20–40 ms25–35 ms steadyPriority routing helps keep latency low
Mobile (Roam)40–80 ms50–100 msSwitching satellites more often increases latency
In-Motion (Boats, RVs)50–150 ms80–120 ms commonAntenna tracking and obstructions increase delays
 
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I asked this exact question on Starlink UK Facebook group yesterday.. it took a lot of crap responses to get back to two people who have roamed out of their home country for more than 60 days. Both confirmed that post the changes they have done this 3&5 months respectively this year and their service wasn’t restricted!

So, my plan on 27th August when we hit French soil is to reactivate the Spanish one and see if I can roam out of country again. I shut this one down in early June after nearly eight weeks use in France of my Spanish service!

I will carry a ‘new’ dish (previously a UK service dish) with me and use it if I can’t reconnect the original one! ✔️
Ok that’s a start. I might only just go over 60 on my French one on this trip.
Just not sure what to do with the Spanish registered one if not really necessary to keep if I can use French one for more than 60 days

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