Schegen zone limited stay.

[Beast]

Hi those of you who have entered the Schegen zone are passports being stamped, if not how do the authorities know how much of your 90 day's have expired.thxs

 

[Langtoftlad]

You are monitored via the chip that was in the Vaccine...

 

[Peakclimber]

Not stamped but scanned inward and outward and so registered on a computer system I guess.

 

[Badknee]

Ours was stamped with the date we left on 10th April this year.

 

[Bessy765]

There is a long barcode in your passport it is swiped through a reader when you stop at the passport control. They don’t have to stamp it

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[Badknee]

There is a long barcode in your passport it is swiped through a reader when you stop at the passport control. They don’t have to stamp it

Perhaps not, but they stamped both of ours at Santander.

 

[Bessy765]

Not saying they wont stamp it but do not assume that because they don’t stamp it they will not be aware of when you entered the zone.. if applied penalties for overstaying can be quite draconian.

 

[Neil S]

Not saying they wont stamp it but do not assume that because they don’t stamp it they will not be aware of when you entered the zone.. if applied penalties for overstaying can be quite draconian.

I wonder if the Spanish will worry to much about a day or two overstay
Not heard of anyone being fined yet

 

[Bessy765]

Not so much the Spanish but if you have to drive through France to get back home??

 

[Neil S]

Not so much the Spanish but if you have to drive through France to get back home??

Yes that could be problem the French officials could be difficult
We always ferry it both ways to Spain as I have a long enough drive just to get to the channel ports
And the thought of the long trek down through France is off putting

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[Bessy765]

We are fortunate to be retired so quite happy or used to be to take our time and wander through France, Spain ending up in Portugal, plus we have a holiday cottage in France.

 

[gunnie]

Hi those of you who have entered the Schegen zone are passports being stamped, if not how do the authorities know how much of your 90 day's have expired.thxs

Hi so we haven’t ha d our passports stamped through santander and we thought ihe 8nformstion must be in the chip. However I had to fly home for a funeral two weeks ago and was stopped coming out of portugal as the6 didn’t think I had left as Spain are not stamping. Apparently they should stamp.

 

[jongood]

Perhaps not, but they stamped both of ours at Santander.

And ours

 

[gus-lopez]

Perhaps not, but they stamped both of ours at Santander.

Making doubly sure

 

[Neil S]

And ours

Assuming your coming home via the ferry from Spain , where are you planning on getting a Covid test before leaving Spain
Just asking as we are hoping to get the ferry out in August and returning the same way IF I’ve got my driving licence back from DVLA grrr

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[jongood]

Assuming your coming home via the ferry from Spain , where are you planning on getting a Covid test before leaving Spain
Just asking as we are hoping to get the ferry out in August and returning the same way IF I’ve got my driving licence back from DVLA grrr

Back through the tunnel is our preference and probably going to wait until after 26th July and hope the leaks are correct.

 

[Skez]

Both our passports stamped by French Border Control on the Tunnel on Monday

 

[Jays2]

I am sure that someone on this site will overstay the 90 limits in the next couple of years.
It will make interesting reading.

 

[jongood]

I am sure that someone on this site will overstay the 90 limits in the next couple of years.
It will make interesting reading.

I think there could well be issues with jurisdiction. The offence would presumably be overstaying in the the EU, but the EU isnt actually a country so if you entered Spain and departed France 91 days later, who would prosecute?

 

[2657]

I think there could well be issues with jurisdiction. The offence would presumably be overstaying in the the EU, but the EU isnt actually a country so if you entered Spain and departed France 91 days later, who would prosecute?

I don't think that prosecution would necessarily come into it, the overstay would trigger a ban on re entering the Schengen zone.

How long the ban would be for is anyone's guess but would be very inconvenient for many to say the least.

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[Gellyneck]

Back through the tunnel is our preference and probably going to wait until after 26th July and hope the leaks are correct.

If it was me I'd be hoping the leaks were fixed before I'd use the Tunnel!

 

[jongood]

I don't think that prosecution would necessarily come into it, the overstay would trigger a ban on re entering the Schengen zone.

How long the ban would be for is anyone's guess but would be very inconvenient for many to say the least.

It will be interesting to see how it develops, had this been a normal year I think we would have had some examples by now.

 

[EuroTrotters]

Are you Residents in Spain? "no"

Scanned and stamped on the way in and the way out.

 

[grumps147]

I think there could well be issues with jurisdiction. The offence would presumably be overstaying in the the EU, but the EU isnt actually a country so if you entered Spain and departed France 91 days later, who would prosecute?

There may not be a prosecution but if it was me I would be looking as follows.

If I left Spain on Day 89 or sooner the Spanish would not be bothered. Entering France on day 89 they would not be bothered, as you have 24 hours to be out.

Leaving Spain on Day 90 I cannot see them being concerned. Entering France on Day 90 they may point out to you you have a long drive and less than 24 hours before midnight to be out.

If over 90 days in Spain and the Spanish let you out, the French may not let you in. French at the point of entry to France or port of exit to the UK would be the ones with jurisdiction. They may not prosecute, they may just stamp and warn, or they could prohibit re-entry for a period. They could prosecute (more likely instant pay fine) and stamp and prohibit.

Being a non EU country, are we restricted to using staffed crossing points where we have to stop?

I shan’t be doing anything to upset any border official.

How they will deal with genuine emergencies that caused an overstay would be anyone’s guess, but with the French network of ANPR and cctv it would be risky to try to con them.

It needs someone to be the first.

 

[jongood]

There may not be a prosecution but if it was me I would be looking as follows.

If I left Spain on Day 89 or sooner the Spanish would not be bothered. Entering France on day 89 they would not be bothered, as you have 24 hours to be out.

Leaving Spain on Day 90 I cannot see them being concerned. Entering France on Day 90 they may point out to you you have a long drive and less than 24 hours before midnight to be out.

If over 90 days in Spain and the Spanish let you out, the French may not let you in. French at the point of entry to France or port of exit to the UK would be the ones with jurisdiction. They may not prosecute, they may just stamp and warn, or they could prohibit re-entry for a period. They could prosecute (more likely instant pay fine) and stamp and prohibit.

Being a non EU country, are we restricted to using staffed crossing points where we have to stop?

I shan’t be doing anything to upset any border official.

How they will deal with genuine emergencies that caused an overstay would be anyone’s guess, but with the French network of ANPR and cctv it would be risky to try to con them.

It needs someone to be the first.

They have little idea even where their own"citizens " are once they're inside the zone,

I cant see them manning what they see as internal borders just to try and catch the occasional British tourist.

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[Coolcats]

Hi those of you who have entered the Schegen zone are passports being stamped, if not how do the authorities know how much of your 90 day's have expired.thxs

ANPR, credit/debit cards data bases etc. Or as Clint Eastwood would say do you feel lucky.

 

[jongood]

ANPR, credit/debit cards data bases etc. Or as Clint Eastwood would say do you feel lucky.

Sure its possible But will they actually commit these resources for a few tourists?
Tbc I'm merely wondering whether there would be aa will to enforce it, I'm not advocating doing it.

 

[orridge]

Sure its possible But will they actually commit these resources for a few tourists?
Tbc I'm merely wondering whether there would be aa will to enforce it, I'm not advocating doing it.

Probably get hassle when you tried to leave France although you could get a fine, deportation or ban when they did a passport check but the real problem will be trying to get back in.

Just got to search for overstayers in Schengen plenty of experience from US, Aussies etc that try to overstay.

 

[jongood]

Probably get hassle when you tried to leave France although you could get a fine, deportation or ban when they did a passport check but the real problem will be trying to get back in.

Just got to search for overstayers in Schengen plenty of experience from US, Aussies etc that try to overstay.

Would it make a difference that they would be travelling through airports? Again merely speculating.

 

[EuroTrotters]

There may not be a prosecution but if it was me I would be looking as follows.

If I left Spain on Day 89 or sooner the Spanish would not be bothered. Entering France on day 89 they would not be bothered, as you have 24 hours to be out.

Leaving Spain on Day 90 I cannot see them being concerned. Entering France on Day 90 they may point out to you you have a long drive and less than 24 hours before midnight to be out.

If over 90 days in Spain and the Spanish let you out, the French may not let you in. French at the point of entry to France or port of exit to the UK would be the ones with jurisdiction. They may not prosecute, they may just stamp and warn, or they could prohibit re-entry for a period. They could prosecute (more likely instant pay fine) and stamp and prohibit.

Being a non EU country, are we restricted to using staffed crossing points where we have to stop?

I shan’t be doing anything to upset any border official.

How they will deal with genuine emergencies that caused an overstay would be anyone’s guess, but with the French network of ANPR and cctv it would be risky to try to con them.

It needs someone to be the first.

to be fair, if you have 90 days, leaving in good time to allow for delays, injuries etc is a good idea.

Remember too, you may need to return or go to another EU country sooner than you think. So a good way is to leave some leeway.