ELECTRICS help please

[bobnick]

I picked our MH up a few days ago. Engine fine, drove 250 miles to our compound and parked up.
Went down today, to load up stuff for our Monday leaving trip.
Absolutely no electrics in the cab from the batteries?
Checked what i know (very little)
Took it to a power point in the compound, not sure if there was power coming from the point, still no electrics.
I've done what i know (see above).
Could something have been swiched off whilst it was at the dealers for 2 months.
Any help would obviously be grately received.

 

[Tombola]

Most stupid response first...
Electric shut down switch is defo on panel

Consumer box tripped
Fuse next to battery (within 30cm) blown loose?

Get your multimeter on the power from the post, or plug something else in to see if its got juice

What sort is it Bob? Is it still the bailey (had in my head it was a gonner)

 

[bobnick]

Most stupid response first...
Electric shit down switch is defo on panel

Consumer box tripped
Fuse next to battery (within 30cm) blown loose?

What sort is it Bob? Is it still the bailey (had in my head it was a gonner)

Not checked the fuse you refer to. That did blow once when i was messing with the tow bar........could it be connected.
Obviously i've tried the panel switch on/off.

Yes still the Bailey. It was with a dealer for 2 months but didn't sell so using it again.

 

[Sleeveless]

Assuming the battery isn't completely discharged , check the battery terminals are tight , dealer may have disconnected and not tightened properly . Be careful jump starting or you will get free membership to the airbag light club.

 

[autorouter]

Absolutely no electrics in the cab from the batteries?

Can you clarify this? Are you talking about the habitation electrics not working (lights, water pump, etc) or the vehicle electrics (dash lights, wipers, fan etc)?

If it's the habitation electrics, can you post a photo of the control panel? There's a good chance it's just a master switch somewhere. Either on the control panel or near the leisure battery. Also, were the habitation electrics working when you left the dealer?

If you can pick up a socket tester from a DIY store that will come in useful now, and in the future. You can check if mains power is getting to the sockets. Possibly you can check the power point in the compound is working if it's a 13A socket. Something like this one, that just plugs into a 13A socket.

LAP 230V Socket tester

Effectively uses LED indicators to show condition of circuit sockets mains, which are easily understandable.

www.diy.com

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[bobnick]

Assuming the battery isn't completely discharged , check the battery terminals are tight , dealer may have disconnected and not tightened properly . Be careful jump starting or you will get free membership to the airbag light club.

Thanks for that will look.
As stated, the van engine etc starts and runs fine. It's just no leccy in the hab.

 

[dazandandrea]

Buy a new one

 

[autorouter]

Not checked the fuse you refer to. That did blow once when i was messing with the tow bar........could it be connected.

Yes, that fuse supplies all the power to the hab electrics, so it's a prime suspect if the hab electrics don't work.

 

[Jabstatt]

I think we need to stop and clarify the problem.

Original post clearly states no electricity in the CAB.

Latest post says in the HAB.

Big difference!!

Tony

 

[Tombola]

I think we need to stop and clarify the problem.

Original post clearly states no electricity in the CAB.

Latest post says in the HAB.

Big difference!!

Tony

TRUE.....sorry Bob I assumed Leisure battery
can you confirm

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[autorouter]

I think we need to stop and clarify the problem.

Original post clearly states no electricity in the CAB.

Latest post says in the HAB.

Big difference!!

He's clarified it already.

the van engine etc starts and runs fine. It's just no leccy in the hab.

 

[bobnick]

Can you clarify this? Are you talking about the habitation electrics not working (lights, water pump, etc) or the vehicle electrics (dash lights, wipers, fan etc)?

If it's the habitation electrics, can you post a photo of the control panel? There's a good chance it's just a master switch somewhere. Either on the control panel or near the leisure battery. Also, were the habitation electrics working when you left the dealer?

If you can pick up a socket tester from a DIY store that will come in useful now, and in the future. You can check if mains power is getting to the sockets. Possibly you can check the power point in the compound is working if it's a 13A socket. Something like this one, that just plugs into a 13A socket.

LAP 230V Socket tester

Effectively uses LED indicators to show condition of circuit sockets mains, which are easily understandable.

www.diy.com

Hi, Yes just the habitation electrics.
Wipers, indicators and anything to do with Peugeot is fine.
Control Panel with not come on.
I never checked the hab electrics when i collected the van.
The socket in the compound is the same as what we use for the van on camp sites. As stated i am not sure or convinced the compound socket was live.

 

[bobnick]

TRUE.....sorry Bob I assumed Leisure battery
can you confirm

Sorry, my excitment.
Cab electrics are all fine.
HABITATION electrics not working on leisure battery.
Not sure about mains as not yet had access to mains (or mains i know that are live)

 

[Sleeveless]

Thanks for that will look.
As stated, the van engine etc starts and runs fine. It's just no leccy in the hab.

Ahhh, original post mentioned hab... in that case check the leisure battery terminals and state of charge , although plugging into EHU bypasses this if the charger is switched on . Also turn your fridge on and see if the light inside works as this is supplied separate to the consumer unit.

 

[bobnick]

Ahhh, original post mentioned hab... in that case check the leisure battery terminals and state of charge , although plugging into EHU bypasses this if the charger is switched on . Also turn your fridge on and see if the light inside works as this is supplied separate to the consumer unit.

Now theres a point that confused me even more.
The fridge switches on...............well the blue lights on the front of it does.
I didn't check if the light comes on inside.

I'm home now. the van is 9 miles away.
Just tried to get to the van again but the traffic is bonkers so turned around. Will collect it early tomorrow to bring home.

Meanwhile all points raised will be tried and tested..............if not too technical.

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[Sleeveless]

Now theres a point that confused me even more.
The fridge switches on...............well the blue lights on the front of it does.
I didn't check if the light comes on inside.

I'm home now. the van is 9 miles away.
Just tried to get to the van again but the traffic is bonkers so turned around. Will collect it early tomorrow to bring home.

Meanwhile all points raised will be tried and tested..............if not too technical.

Bottom line ...If the fridge control/lights work but nothing else on the 12v hab does, except when on EHU, chances are that the 30A midi fuse has blown. This is located somewhere along the main positive cable between the leisure battery positive terminal and the consumer unit or PDU . The fridge (control) is the only consumer that takes its supply before the midi fuse.

 

[bobnick]

Just a point.
Leisure battery should be fine i think as the solor panel keeps it charged...........doesn't it

 

[Sleeveless]

Just a point.
Leisure battery should be fine i think as the solor panel keeps it charged...........doesn't it

Well there's some charge in it to power the fridge control , but if the midi fuse has blown the L/B may not be getting a solar charge either, depending on how it's wired .

 

[Dutch 68]

Sorry, my excitment.
Cab electrics are all fine.
HABITATION electrics not working on leisure battery.
Not sure about mains as not yet had access to mains (or mains i know that are live)

Did you ring the Dealer?

 

[bobnick]

Did you ring the Dealer?

You mean the dealer where it was being sold? no but i did mail them (i don't do phones unless the bank wants to give me a code/pin)

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[Tombola]

dont forget to take your multi meter

 

[Dutch 68]

You mean the dealer where it was being sold? no but i did mail them (i don't do phones unless the bank wants to give me a code/pin)

They might know , they could have switched it off

 

[bobnick]

dont forget to take your multi meter

Will do, if i can find someone that can use/read it cause i wouldn't have a clue

 

[bobnick]

They might know , they could have switched it off

I thought that, that's why i mailed them to ask.

 

[Tombola]

Will do, if i can find someone that can use/read it cause i wouldn't have a clue

well dont forget your phone and post here....they easy enough

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[autorouter]

Not sure about mains as not yet had access to mains (or mains i know that are live)

If you had a socket tester like the one in the link in post #5, and also one of these:

Fly Lead Socket Convertor

Manufactured from 250mm arctic blue cable. 16 amp lead to 13 amp socket. Manufactured to BS 60309.

www.toolstation.com

you can test a hookup post to see if it's working. Then use it on the hookup cable to check that is working too. Finally you can test a socket in the motorhome to see if the power is reaching that far.

The tester also shows faults like 'Missing Earth' which is dangerous and would need correcting.

 

[olley]

Did you have the ignition on when testing the hab electrics? On mine the only thing that works with the engine running is the fridge.

 

[DJL220]

Hi Bob

After working on my Bailey recently, I would suggest you check these first are switched like the photo below

Next I would check you leisure battery and make sure that the terminals are tight. Don’t worry about the numbers shown

If you can find this fuse if it’s blown then you will have no power (on my 79-4t it’s under the travelling seats in the rear) in the black fuse case.

Hopefully it is one of the above. Worth checking your hab batteries with a multimeter too (maybe first thing I would do!)
Good luck

 

[bobnick]

Did you have the ignition on when testing the hab electrics? On mine the only thing that works with the engine running is the fridge.

No. Don't need the engine running for hab electrics. Should come on from the leisure battery once mains are switched on on the panel control thing.

 

[autorouter]

Will do, if i can find someone that can use/read it cause i wouldn't have a clue

Multimeters may look complicated, but reading a battery voltage is one of the easiest and safest things you can do with it. First, make sure the red and black leads are plugged into the correct sockets. The black one (negative) goes in the one labelled 'COM' (= common). The red one goes in the one with a 'V' in the label.

Turn the dial to the 20V DC range. The DC symbol is two lines, one solid, one dashed. The opposite of DC is AC, and the symbol for that is a single wavy line. Turn on the meter if it has a separate on/off switch.

Push the red probe onto the positive battery terminal. Push the black probe onto the negative battery terminal. You should get a reading of between 10V and 15V. If you get the probes the wrong way round, nothing bad happens, but a minus sign appears in front of the reading. Note that 12V can't give you an electric shock. The voltage has to be over about 50V to do that. You can safely touch the battery terminals with your fingers.

Guess what... you just found someone that can use a multimeter

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