Would you buy?

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  1. haganap

    haganap Funster Life Member

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    Ok so our extensive research has led us down the path to 3 vans, one we have already seen and two we are off to see tomorrow.

    The story thus far-
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    van is, nice, clean and tidy very well maintained with minimal extras, surfice to say it only has an alarm, colapsable steering wheel and sog plus an extra leisure battery. nothing more. Low milage and 2 owners and £26k that he has already moved from 29k. A very nice dealer I might add not your high pressure sales pitch and he will throw in a bike rack to get a deal.
    So question 1 is how much further do you think I could negotiate before he falls about laughing.
    THE cruncher I suppose is the 12month warranty

    van 2 is a private sale from someone wishing to upgrade, not in a hurry to sale and has 1 owner described as as new, 18k with a fantastic alarm system, and sounds like someone that has really taken care of it. Extras are a bike rack and cab aircon, outside gas BBQ. The owner is upgrading so not looking to take a cut but his bottomw line would be £25k no lower.

    Van3
    This is a desperate to sell man. You know the sort, He is the 2nd owner whom has not taken to Motorhoming and has only done 1k miles in a year. everything is included, electric cables, chocks, tv,dvd, It also has extras including saterlitte system, Tv aerial, roof air con. BBQ point , bike rack, no alarm system and an MOT is required, service history and due a habitation check now. The advertised price was £28k ovno but I gain the impression that there is a bargain to be had on this one, maybee as low as 24-25k with some tasty extras.

    So question is what am i missing and what further advice would anyone like to add in choosing one of these jelopies. A nervous time to be shelling out such large somes of cash.

    please help:Sad:
     
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    No:- 3 and screw him down another 2K at least as it a buyer market. If he wont budge try chipping number 2 down. my bet is number 3 though with a further discount as he needs out:thumb:

    It's a buyer market especially in these figures think what holiday 2K would buy.
     
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    haganap Funster Life Member

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    Thanks John,
    like your thinking its like mine.:thumb:
     
  4. Johns_Cross_Motorhomes

    Johns_Cross_Motorhomes Trader - Motorhome & Accessory Sales

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    Hi Haga,

    No 3 sounds the obvious choice but you do not say what models, years and mileages.

    What are you going to do with present van, you could end up like No 3 getting rid of it!

    Peter
     
  5. Papa Smurf

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    Depends if all 3 vans are the same (or similar) make / model I guess.

    This is a buyer's market - ask for another 4k off from each seller and be prepared to accept a move back up by 1 k.

    Thnk of how much the missing "extras" for each van will cost - for example, If the van does not have an alarm (and why not these days!), then how much to put on the alarm of your choice? I would guess it's a little more expensive than to buy a bike rack....

    And in the end, just ask the wife. She'll decide anyways.

    Papa
     
  6. haganap

    haganap Funster Life Member

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    all the same models papa. And your probably right Nikki will get too choose but of course we all know who will do the driving:Wink:
     
  7. Road Runner

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    On number 3 in mean another 2K off of 25K at least, use the MOT and service as a downside and forget the goodies they are already on it, highlight what you have already been offered and lie a bit:Wink:

    Sure JC would agree he would (nudge nudge wink wink :Wink:) ignore them on trade in and highlight them on sale. (sorry JC:Wink:)
     
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    I'd go for No 3 also.......but negotiate the final price, then tell him it's agreeable on condition of him paying the cost of a new MOT at a station of your choice (don't let him take it to a Garage of his preference....this is quite important). If it requires money spending to get it through an MOT, then knock that off the pre-agreed price.

    Any vehicle being offered up for sale without MOT is at a disadvantage. You have to ask yourself why the seller cannot be bothered to do it before advertising.....he quite possibly has and had a failure and doesn't want to spend the money!

    Finally....be ruthless. Never buy on impulse and be prepared to walk away from a deal to think it over. You may well have had a change of heart by the following day which could save you thousands!
     
  9. Jim

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    None of them! Yet. Prices are going to go lower, many dealers are not part exchanging. The new year will see lots of private sales bargains as motorhomers feeling the pinch unload. If you can bear to go without for a little while you will reap the rewards in the new year.

    Just my opinion, which i know you will ignore because its really horrible to be motorhomeless, :Smile: so rush out and choose van 3. Remember most deals finish in the middle, so 9 times out of 10, the lower your first offer the better deal you will get. Don't be afraid to insult private sellers with a low price. Most sellers have already been seriously insulted by a dealer so your offer wont sound as bad as you think it does:Smile:

    Best of Luck:thumb:
     
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    haganap Funster Life Member

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    Sorry JC, all the same model, and my van is now pictures in my memory. :Sad::Sad::Sad: Hencee why im in for a new one.
     
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    haganap Funster Life Member

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    and to think Jim you know me so well after 1 year:Rofl1: Im meant to be the one with the qualifications in psychology:Doh:
     
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    Are you sure of motives

    The cynic in me warns about the motives of seller 3, Are you sure he's not spinning you a yarn about being desperate to sell. he could be a bit of a del boy and trying to off load a pile of rubbish and make you feel that you've got a bargin. My glass seems to be half empty this morning:Blush:.
     
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    I would have a good look at number 3 and if you are happy with it really bid him low say £19,000 what is the worst that can happen? He will say no!!!

    Greatly emphasize the obvious down points namely, no MOT, him wanting a quick sale, it being a terrible time of the year to sell a motorhome, service required also any faults that you can see no matter how small, also point out that in just over a month it will be another year older. Then emphasize that you are a cash buyer, times are hard you have no part exchange to bother with etc, etc.

    Above all do not, I repeat do not appear too keen to buy act as if you are not bothered if you buy it or not, and tell your better half the same!

    If you cannot agree a price say around the £20,000 mark walk away but leave your phone mumber saying you have several others to look at and you offer is only good for a week.

    This has worked for me in the past, best of luck.

    Regards Pat
     
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    Hi personally No. 3 worries me, if you wanted to sell why would you not get an MOT on a £25,000 vehicle? doesn't sound right to me.

    Olley
     
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    haganap Funster Life Member

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    he will do olley. he just has not got one yet, he says he will do this before sale.
     
  16. Terry

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    Hi Haganap I am with Pat -ruffingitsmoothly- on this go in low leave phone number and walk.In fact do it with all 3 and see what happens :thumb::Rofl1:I suspect that when they get a realaity check you will hear from one of them after a few weeks :thumb::thumb:
    terry
     
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    Geo Trader - Funster

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    I'm neither a pessimist or an optimist, but an engineer,The glass was to big in the first place:thumb:
    Paul
    All good advice, especially Bulletguys, we all know what these bent Testers are like:Eeek:
    And if you take Pats advice dont forget to take a knife and cut his throat too :Rofl1::Rofl1::Rofl1: Glad your not buying off me
    Good luck
    Geo
     
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    Just a though Paul has got enough dosh to buy the Coachman and LPG it:Wink::thumb:
     
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    and then all we'll need is a 25 ft drive extension to fit it on:Rofl1:
     
  20. Terry

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    Hi Haganap heres another thought :thumb: which ever you go for make sure you give it a good half hours test drive :thumb: then check every thing works ie fridge, boiler, heating,taps etc,remember if it is a private sale once you have paid and you drive away,you are on your own :BigGrin::thumb::Rofl1:
    You can always buy one of Jims checklists (off Ebay of course-he needs feedback)and tick off everything as you go :thumb::Rofl1:
    terry
     
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