Why the love of the Fiat Ducato?

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  1. jessthedog

    jessthedog Funster

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    As a newbie to the site, I'm interested in why the majority of motorhome manufacturers go for the Fiat Ducato.
    If I was going to buy a car, no disrespect to fiat car owners, a Fiat would be would be way down on my list. ( I do like the look of the little 500 though!)
    The fiat Ducato dosen't even come in the top 10 of vans sales in the UK.
    In Europe, its sister company IVECO, gets to No4 for truck sales in Europe.
    The companies who make comparable chassis, The Transit van is the most popular van in the uk, followed by Mercedes, Volkswagen, Renault then Peugeot.
    What is it, that makes the Fiat Ducato an ideal motorhome van, but according the vast majority of businesses in Europe who buy vans, no good for them?
     
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    and the wholesale cost of ducato/boxer per thousand
     
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    Thanks Mercianman,
    Just read that. It seems that a lot of them don't use this special chassis and a lot use the AL-Ko chassis.
    So why not use say the Volkswagen crafter with the AL-KO chassis, or Transit etc etc.
     
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    The new Transits get nicked, very easily.
     
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    I guess it's the standard option or the cheapest option. We have a ducato and it's fine. We preferred it to a transit camper.
     
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    I also would probably not buy a fiat car but find the fiat base vehicle in my Hymer performs extremely well so no complaints.
    Mercedes and VW are superior for some but paying for a name is not always best policy, reliability and performance should also be a consideration and other than the reversing judder from the past I think Fiat are more than adequate.
     
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    Having owned a Fiat based van now for over 5 years and 70000 ish miles I honestly can't fault it. Despite my reservations before buying its been superb and will easily do another 70000.
    My preference would be Iveco but I wouldn't touch a Mercedes with a barge pole Fiat is far superior in my opinion.:imoutahere:
     
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    A factor for PVCs is the Fiat is a lot easier to convert I believe taking into account size, shape and, compared to the Merc, front wheel drive. But I suspect cost is an over-riding factor too.
     
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    Thanks the big1,
    So its its down to cost? The Fiat is cheaper than the rest.
     
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    Thanks Rangitra,
    I've read that there is a problem with that. But there was also a problem with BMW cars and others too.
    Are they not nicking the Fiats?
     
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    Hi Mercianman,
    Did you own a Transit home?
     
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    Of course they are nicking Fiats, but it seems New Trannies are easier, let's face it the technology is available, the buggers can nick almost anything, but lucky for us Fiat owners, trannies are the go at the moment, the in Nickee !
     
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    Thanks Larrynwin,
    That really is my point. You have a Hymer with the fiat base and it performs well, but really you don't have much of a choice. There are some models of Hymer which have a Mercedes option, but it comes at a price. I've seen on a German website, that a transit based Hymer is cheaper than the Fiat based model, that wouldn't happen with a normal van. If you were buying a van, would you choose a Fiat?
    The businesses around Europe are not choosing the Fiat Ducato. If it is such a great van than why not?
     
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    Thanks,
    I've sat in the new Transit and they seem a nice van. Haven't driven one, but I owned one a good few years ago and thought it was a great van, but then again there didn't seem to be a lot of choice in the 80's
     
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    I cannot quote from fleet or individual van buying but as far as cars go I do not believe in paying extra for a name.
    If I were buying a van it would probably be a Transit, my experience of Ford has always been good.
    With the Hymer I had no choice , it was new on the forecourt with various tempt me extras and I struck a deal and no regrets so far.
    Perhaps Fiat don't offer the best deals for fleet van purchase.
     
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    Thanks Forestboy,
    Why wouldn't you touch a Mercedes with a barge pole? If you were buying 2 new identical Motorhomes for the same price, you would buy the fiat based over the Merc?
    If soo,what would be your reasons?
    Thanks
     
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    It is like the old Talbot, a good solid no frills donkey mated with a good solid chassis, It has its FUBARs , every vehicle does, the Sump , the Fifth gear, the reversing up hill judder, we learn to live with it.
    It's a good solid dependable workhorse!
     
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    Thanks DBK,
    The scenic in me, is that it is all down to cost. If the Fiat Ducato was superior to all the rest, wouldn't the fleet buyers of Europe be buying them? The problem seems to be choice. If the majority of manufacturers use the Fiat, then unless you buy a very expensive motorhome, it will have to be that.
     
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    All I know is that I have had a Renault car before and would never ever buy another but our Renault van is brilliant. Drives lovely (for a van) and (touch wood) no serious base vehicle issues.

    Sticking to a PVC though and demanding a trnaverse rear bed, we would be better off with the Citroen or Fiat offering...
     
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