truck to pull a 5er

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  1. Wheelie

    Wheelie Read Only Funster

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    Okay so some of you were right and i bow to your knowledge, my navara is not man enough to pull my 5er up hilly areas and certianly not suitable for reversing up any sort of incline.

    Im looking at yank pick ups as i dont want a mini artic, has anyone got any experience or views on the following

    Dodge ram 1500 quad cab 4.6 V8 or 5.7 Hemi
    Dodge ram 2500 quad cab
    Ford F150 super crew cab

    Thanks

    Neil
     
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    Why go yank - try a Land Rover happily pulls 3.5 tonnes anywhere - was built for the job - Chatter tows with an Isuzu
     
  3. Wheelie

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    Land rovers do not have enough elbow room for me and chatters 5er is 600kg ish lighter than mine, so yank i think is the way for me (possibly and over kill) buti will have the option to upgrade my 5er when i wish to something larger
     
  4. Terry

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    I had a Dodge ram 1500 quad V8 5.7 Hemi now that could / would pull anything but only did 10 mpg :Eek!::Rofl1: what about a range rover ?

    terry
     
  5. matamoros

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    I pull our Ultralite with a Mazda BT50 rated at 140bhp, around 30 less than the Navara, and find this adequate to pull just short of 6000kilos all up.Admittedly you wouldn't win any races in it and use of the gearbox is essential and a sixth gear would be useful,you must realise you are driving a fully loaded light commercial vehicle and cannot expect to climb hills etc at the same speed as a car. I very soon realised that both first and reverse gears are far too high for slow speed manoeuvering and always engage low ratio four wheel drive which is manually selected on the Mazda.
    In the two years that we have owned the 5er we have travelled over 14000 miles throughout Europe, averaging 19/20mpg, including a trip over the Alps through Italy into Croatia with no major problems so far(touch wood).
    I must admit it would be nice to have a bit more power on occasions but overall I am very pleased with the overall performance of the Mazda and it is compact enough to take solo into small towns throughout Europe without difficulty.
     
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    true neil but my truck has a higher payload than a nav and thus far i havent suffered any of the probs that blight navarra owners who are using them to pull 5vers. I also know folk that pull 5vers with the ford ranger who are quite happy
    with the performance and have had no clutch etc related problems
     
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    Hi.

    I used to have a Dodge 250 hd with a cummins engine ,with what you want to tow you would not know it is on the back a superb vehicle.

    The downside is going in to small towns etc , as with fuel you should get around 15mpg and if you are thinking of buying a yank then the fuel should not be an issue , we are on our third american and we love them and I do not care what people say about the fuel consumption!!:thumb::thumb:
     
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    We have a couple of Nav's nd love them to bits......but don't use to pull anything!

    But did I not see somewhere that the new Nav is a 3ltr V6 diesel......and did I read wrong ...... an 8 speed GBox.

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  9. Wheelie

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    yes your right but at 33k i wont be buying one :Eeek:

    I love my navara for normal driving but ive lost confidence in it for towing the 5er, i just had a new clucth under warranty, i tried to reverse out of a field in wales in LOW box and spun the new clutch, i now feel its not for the job and dont want a £1500 quid bill for another clutch. also my 5er weighs in at 2900kg empty which is approx 400kg heavier than stated, i just feel its not for me anymore
     
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    C&CC magazine this month has a review - 3.0 V6 with 7-speed autobox....2.5 still available and tweaked.
     
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    Ford F150 Trident,, Economical Solo and pretty good return with a 33ft unit.. :thumb:

    If my memory serves me correct,,, 18-20 solo and 14-16 rigged up,, and rig was always well loaded for long term continental touring including Genny,, and tons of stuff we never even used.. :Doh:
     
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    Couple of years back we passed a 5th wheel at the French customs going into France, he overtook us later on doing around 80mph on a hill . It was the one with the dual back wheels, Dodge Ram? his 5th wheel was a biggy, can't see anything else coming close to that.

    Landy? noisy, drafty flipping things.

    Olley
     
  13. Sundowners

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    Hi
    I admit that we are more than a little biased---------------in England we have been running a5.9 Cummins powered Ram to pull our 5er and carry our (quite large) truck camper for about 3 1/2 years.
    We have bought another one to do our little US road trip------do you need to ask why???
    We have seen thousands of 5ers being pulled by all-sorts--but the thing they ALL have in common, is nothing smaller than a F250- Dodge 2500-------a lot use trucks like ours, 3500 dually. These trucks with diesel engines are expensive ----even in the US, but I believe that, although noisy, diesel is better for the job (especially in England)
    You have to drive the Cummins to understand the torque !!!!!!!!!! (a guy with a diesel Chevy. told me that they have even more power ??????)
    I prefer to run a truck that has a bit of 'spare' power.:thumb::Wink::BigGrin::BigGrin:
    Nigel & Pamala
    Alaska
    BTW we COULD run at 80 (if it were legal) but for fuel economy we stick to 60 mph ---even diesels CAN drink fuel !!!!!
     
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    I have a Dodge 2500HD 5.9l cummins and love it, its far better than all my previous trucks by miles, L200, Nav's, Chevy, Hilux. It has plenty of power and with our old 5er you could often forget it was on the back, our new one if it ever arrives will be slightly heavier and was only bought because I knew the truck would pull it with ease.
    Yes the fuel consumption is a tad on the low side but as a plus its higher than our supercharged range rover:Rofl1:
    I have no problems with the size of vehicle and use it every day for work, I visit different clients daily and have no major issues parking or getting about towns and villages.
    The biggest difference I noticed going from a Hilux to the Dodge was stability whilst towing, with the Hilux I never felt 100% in control of the 5er at speed, yes it was capable of over 60, if that was allowed, but you had to have your witts about you :Sad: Towing with the Dodge was a totally relaxing and much safer feeling and I'm looking forward to towing our new 5er if and when it turns up
     
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    Come on Olley what land rovers have you been driving they came in to the 21 century a long time ago

    Defender 110 Td5 XS spec
    2.5 litre turbo charged 5 cylinder engine -
    heated seats
    heated windscreen
    heated mirrors
    central locking
    cruise control
    electric windows
    leather unpholstery on reclining seats
    air conditioning ( and not by opening the window !!)
    Hi Low transfer box
    5 speed standard gearbox
    22/23 to the gallon pulling 3.5 tonne 5'er can go to 4 tonne on power brakes
    32 to the gallon normal running
    cruises solo comfortably at 75/80 mile per hour all day tops out at 104mph if you want to risk your licence

    Mods done but NOT essential

    Air Ride rear suspension
    Heavy duty winch to pull out other RV's !!
    Power chip to raise the torque to a modest 290ft lb @1750rpm and 195bhp

    and much more but I won't bore you

    Come to Shepton rally and I will take you for a run out :thumb:
     
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    At Last!! A man who has seen sense! Well done and good luck with your search. Wouldnt use anything less than a F250 or a 2500 on a big 5er but my F150 will pull up to 28-30 footer without breaking into a sweat :thumb:

    So yes I have lots of experience with my F150 Lightning. It does about 20mpg on a run and around 14ish round town. I use it for towning a bloody heavy trailer with an access platform on and it does so effortlessly (unlike the crap Nav I had before which couldnt pull the skin off a rice pudding!!!). Its easy to drive, easy to park, cheap to tax and insure and will out do a Porsche from the traffic lights. I LOVE IT!!!!!!
     
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    I'm all for land rovers, here's my old one, taken whilst doing a winch challenge in southern Ireland
     

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    OK it was 20 years ago, and they were dock run abouts. :Rofl1: Part of the dock area next to our workshop was waste land, and we used to take the landy over there and race it over the piles of dirt and rubble, great fun.

    Olley
     
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    Ram and the F250 are both good choices, and may be a cheaper option as there are a few in the UK.

    The other option, if you like the Navara, is to import an Oz-spec one, which has a 4.2 petrol engine (not available in the UK) These are the old patrol engines, and will tow a house down all day long.
     
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    Hi Wheelie

    I have owned and run just about every yank pick up made.

    The Dodge Diesel loads of pulling power but a bit like a Nissan Navara in the wet. They are very popular in the Uk because of availability and price.

    The Ford F250 super duty Diesel my own opinion the best, good all rounder loads of power and quick but more exspensive.

    The Chevrolet again my opinion but I don't rate the diesel but the petrol is the strongest of the all the petrols. (at the risk of having bricks thrown at me:Laughing::Laughing:)

    Chevrolets are a bit thinner over here because GM will not sell a new Chevrolet in the USA for you to export it has to be registered to a US address, both Dodge and Ford will.

    Not trying to sell it to you but I do have a Ford F250 super duty diesel 2004 Harley Davidson limited edition for sale due to my RV purchase.

    I also own a Chevy Petrol you are welcome to come and drive both to compare, not with the view to buying one of mine just to try.

    This is my personal opinion but hope it helps.

    All the best and good luck Rick.
     

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