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  1. Wildman

    Wildman Read Only Funster

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    All of my media is stored on a seperate WD elements harddrive all 400 gig of it, all my photos from 1977 onwards, movies song sheets etc. Hundreds of document files including 20 years research of family history. Today the drive failed to boot. the power supply (once fuse was replaced) showed a neon until the drive was plugged in then the light dimmed to a flash and blew the fuse again. I suspect the drive has siezed causing an overload. Is it the cold weather or terminal I've no idea. I have been in the habit of making an MPEG movie disk of the photos every year so memories not entierly lost, however I don't think I can take the photos out again as individual photos to use when posting etc. Can it be done? There are thousands of photos that were catagorised by date and occasion, easy to find on the hard drive, a few hundred are on photobucket and same again on dropbox, but loads of personal research documents, manuals etc are not backed up. to say I am totally pissed of would be an understatement. I spent weeks digitising videos before dumping them, now all gone:cry::cry: months/years of my life gone in a flash is it time to give up the computer altogether?
     
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    Nowhere near as bad as your dilemma but I have a removable hard drive on my HP desktop where I kept loads of pics and records from work and financial stuff but that won't boot up after I locked it away in a (hot) loft whilst away last year. :Sad:


     
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    Find a local data recovery company its suprising what they do
    It may only be the electronics in the unit not the hard drive
    Had the same thing this guy took out the drive pluged it into a replacment dock and got all my data back charged me 40 quid
     
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    Ouch. I reckon Jim is right, a pro is probably the only way.
     
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    I guess you don't want to spend hundreds of pounds sending it to a recovery firm.

    So if desperate, pull it apart and see what type of drive it is. It may fit directly in your PC.

    The drive may be OK, it could be the interface.

    If it has seized you could remove the sealed cover and spin it by hand then replace cover and try again, once open it will last long enough to copy everything off, if the gods are smiling.
     
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    I'll have a word with a friend of mine, he can probably recover it for you as his company works in that type of industry. I will see him tomorrow and let you know what can be done.
     
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    As a very, very last resort :Eeek: I have managed to buy an identical drive and strip both down, then swap the old platters (storage discs) into the new drive.

    I'm not recommending it, just saying that it can be done :Smile:
     
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    When the hard disc broke down on my work laptop a few years ago I took it down to a guy in Christchurch and he managed to recover all of the info on it within a few hours (I left it in the morning and came back later in the day). Mind you it was back in 2006 and and it was only a 40Gb hard drive. The total cost including VAT was £323.

    He worked from his own house and his company was called Retrodata. You could try them. They are still in business but appear to have got bigger and have moved now to Lymington. Try www.retrodata.co.uk.
     
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    sounds like it may be the hard drive enclosure electronics have failed, try dismantling and removing the hard disk. then get hold of another enclosure or hard disc to usb adapter cable. should cost no more than £10 to try

    last time I had dealings with data recovery it cost £50+vat per hour and that was some time ago

    one trick i learnt for internal drives that failed due to heat was to place the drive in a zip lock bag and place in the freezer for a few hours. then reinstall and copy all data. repeat until you get it all. cost nothing to try and worked for me on a few discs
     
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    I have a WD 500gb drive that has the "click of death", fortunately with no irreplaceable files on it. But it is such a pain.....:cry:

    Let us know how you get on
     
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    Respect !
     
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    I keep all my photos on three separate external drives (three copies). Sad perhaps but short of the house burning down I shouldn't lose them. Perhaps should get a fire safe.:Blush:
     
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    Update, it is the harddrive enclosure electronics playing silly beggers waggle the board once stripped and I can get it to work so new caddy needed and a back up drive. The trouble is all decent drives these days are USB3 both of my machines only USB2 nowt but blooming problems
     
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    That's good news.

    USB3 drives are normally backwards compatible with SB2. Two of the external drives I use for backups are Toshiba Stor.E Partners. One is always used in a USB2 port (this machine has one USB3 and two USB2) so you should be OK.

    Get at least one extra backup drive ASAP though :Smile:
     
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    I had many photos on a laptop and backed up to an external drive.

    When the laptop died, I went upstairs to get the backup drive and dropped it down a wrought-iron spiral staircase onto a tiled floor.

    It took three purchases to find another drive that was internally identical to the original, even though they had the same manufacturer and model numbers.

    It took many hours of very frustrating work to recover all the original images.

    I'm going back to plate cameras and the wetplate collodion process :thumb:

    ***********http://www.collodion.de/********

    (This is actually the website of the father of a fulltiming motorhome family who earns a living from his photography)
     
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    Having stripped the drive from the electronics I have managed to clean all of the electroniic connections and got it functioning again, I bought a HDD docking station and have backed up to two different drives now, both stored in different places so the bulk should hopefully remain safe no matter what happens to this drive in the future. However two previous IDE backup dries that have not been accessed for at least 5 years are now no longer readable so I do wonder just how safe digital media actually is.
     
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  18. GJH

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    What's the problem with the IDE drives Roger? If it is simply lack of interface you should be able to get a IDE to USB caddy or stick them in an old desktop machine.

    Generally speaking, any media in storage should be kept in conditions designed to prevent deterioration. When we were in business we maintained machines with every version of Windows from 3.11 to Vista (with the exception of ME) - I think most of them are still in the loft - and used to fire them up from time to time just to check them out.
     

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