Speed limits and stickers

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  1. Puddleduck

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    Our van is rated at 3650 kg so the lower speed limits apply. In England and Wales I believe these are 50, 60, 60 but in Scotland and NI the 40,50,60 still applies. Please correct me if I am wrong :)

    Does anyone have stickers on the back of their van similar to those seen on HGVs? and what do you do about the different limits?
     
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    If you're registered as a motor caravan then in the UK the speed limit is dependant on your unladen weight and not your rated weight (unless you use it to carry goods, as a workshop, or storage in which case even if registered as a motor caravan the goods vehicles limits will apply).

    https://www.gov.uk/speed-limits

    so you'll either be 60, 70, 70 or 50, 60, 70 if you're registered as a motor caravan and only use as such.
     
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    It says in the information that came with the van that it should not be driven at speeds more than 60mph.

    We also carry things for my business when we are away so I can post to customers. By the strict letter of the law I am guessing that is goods for sale - even though they take less room than a small child's shoe box and weigh about the same. The insurance company do know.

    Mass in Service on the V5 is 2939
     
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    Isn't that very unusual?
    I guess technically you're right, & if you've informed your insurance then I suppose you've conceded the point so should apply ALL rules as a goods vehicle. [Unless you give the stuff to somebody else to post???]
    No, but often thought it might be helpful when I don't want to irritate other drivers.
    Stick to 'em? - I'm guessing this isn't what you meant though.....
     
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    I have one on the back of mine, say's this vehicle is limited to 150mph :)
     
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    If by the fact the fact that you are going to irritate other road users by sticking to the speed limit of your vehicle, a little (or even a flashing sign) will not make them less irritable
     
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    You say 50, 60, 60. But assuming your unladen weight is in excess of 3.05t, then I think it's 50, 60 and 70 on motorways, ie, you can still do 70 on Motorways.
     
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    50, 60, 70 in England but different in Scotland and NI.

    I do wonder why the book says a maximum of 60 mph, and how many people would actually read the book! It is a Fiat.
     
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    Nigel,

    The OP has already said that his Unladen Mass is 2939Kgs.
    Therefore, he has the same limits as a car doesn't he.?
     
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    Yes, you are quite right, sorry, missed the 2939Kgs(y)
     
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    but remember thats only the max speed . its not compulsary to do it .
    you can drive slower and enjoy the scenery.
    its not how long does it take to get there .
    its how long can we take to get there.
    might never get there . hee hee
     
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    My understanding is that the vehicle in a motor home and the relevant speed limits apply. It is quite normal to add to the insurance "use in connection with your business" ( with some exceptions like commercial travelling etc). This is something I have done in the past when carrying tools and or equipment I used for my job

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    What confuses me here is that I've never heard of any difference in speed limits for Scotland or Norther Ireland? There is a difference in drink driving limits, but as far as I know speed limits are "National".
     
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    I think it's only applicable for goods vehicles over 7.5 tonnes looking at the https://www.gov.uk/speed-limits guidance which gives different limits for England and Wales and then Scotland. NI isn't mentioned so not sure what the deal is there. It would seem that when England and Wales increased the speed limit for HGVs Scotland didn't. Good job I only drive up to 7.5 tonnes - I thought it had changed everywhere.
     
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    Ah many thanks for that. It would never affect me which might explain my ignorance, even in my working days in ambulance service, ambulances were governed by a completely different set of rules.
     
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    I hope you realise by carrying goods you are classed as a goods vehicle and require plating at the end of the first year and subsequnet years a class 4 MOT is only for private vehicles, it will also have implications on your insurance.
     
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    many motor homes with a garage area are really wrong mot etc .
    vosa know about it but they have said till they get lots of body bags it just gets ignored .
    but could change at any time . m,bikes push bikes ,blow up boats . things like that etc all change the use really . then there is the need for tacho,s and speed limiters etc . could get exciting soon.
     
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    Just back from Germany on the bike, which means I actually got to see how fast the MHs were there - 80 mph normal, some above this. I was amazed.
     
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    Mine says....

    speed limited by my sphincter muscle. (y):D
     
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