So, how much Payload DO you carry?

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  1. Papa Smurf

    Papa Smurf Member

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    Okay,

    I think I've got my head around most things to a certain degree, but this is one area in which I have no knowledge, so all responses would be of value.

    How much payload (weight) do you take with you in your MH / RV?

    The reason I ask is that I want to make sure that the van we buy in the next month or so has a reasonable payload capability, but I have no practical idea of what that may be. Oh, and I like gadgets like Sat Dish, self-seeking solar panel etc.

    June & I intend to go tour Northern Europe (France, Germany, Italy, - the usual suspects) for 3 months or so at a time, maybe longer (up to 6) if we can schedule things over here appropriately.

    Please help if you can - I would hate to fall in love with a van that is just going to be impossible to use because of too a limited payload for our needs.

    Thanks in advance.

    Papa
     
  2. GJH

    GJH Funster Life Member

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    We took our van (Elddis Autoquest 100) to a local weighbridge last February.

    Apart from food & clothing (which don't weigh a lot anyway) I packed everything we ever take with us into the van. This included mutually exclusive items like the Khyam awning & free standing solar panel (which we tend to take only in the warmer months, especially for musters) and oil filled radiator which we take only in the colder months.

    We don't have a satellite dish so that included all the heavy stuff we had.

    Our van has a maximum user payload of 475 KGs and we found that we still had 160 kilos to play with - plenty given that there are only the two of us normally.

    Hope this helps.

    Graham
     
  3. Jim

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    The Go Motorhoming has an excellent chapter on weight and payoad, it gives the weight of most items you might carry and is good at getting down and dirty to the exact payload you will require.

    The absolute cheapest place to buy that book is here. Go Motorhoming
     
  4. Papa Smurf

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    Thanks both.

    Anyone else want to help a novice out with their info?
     
  5. Terry

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    Hi papa why not load your car and weigh it loaded /unloaded that way you will find it easy to see what payload is required,Factor in fuel,water passengers etc,to get a rough idea,then add 10/15% then jf you get rid of her indoors you can half it all>:)
    terry
     
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    highwayman Funster Life Member

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    Hi papa
    We weighed-in at 3140 with half a tank of derv and half a tank of water
    But empty of clothes, food etc.
    A year later having taken-up scuba we weighed 3470kg everything-full :thumb:

    I havn't had a pie in months incase :cry:



    regards...nige
     
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    highwayman Funster Life Member

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    Go for the biggest payload you can get in your preffered layout
    cos it's better to have-it and not use it than not have-it and need-it !





    regards...nige
     
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    Hi,

    When looking at motorhomes to buy check their specification regarding payload. Some continental motorhomes have a very low payload.

    If you are planning tours of 3 months or more then I would suggest you look for a payload above 500kg at least. I had been thinking of changing to a Rapido from an Auto-Trail motorhome but the Rapido payload was quite poor. Our cheyenne 660 4ton has over 700kg which is quite respectable. If you are sticking to 3.5 ton and below then you can expect to find payloads above 400kg in British build motorhomes.
     
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  10. JayDee

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    Blimey :Eeek:
    We were advised that after fitting bike rack and wind out awning we had something like 460kg of payload left.
    Our MIRO (Mass in Running Order but it's not called that any more I don't think) includes nearly full fuel and full FW but empty loo. We loaded up with representative amount of food, clothing and accessories and a decent stock or wine and brandy, etc and were on our MGW without the wife. She was not impressed when it was suggested she would have to stay behind :Laughing:

    So how do you do it??????? What's your secret? I suppose I could go naked, but it would probably scare the horses. :Eeek:

    John
     
  11. olley

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    Hi I would agree, about 500kgs, the payload figure given may not include you or your wife, so thats about 140kg's off it straight away.

    Olley
     
  12. Enodreven

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    Hi,

    I would agree that you should try and get the maximum you can and i would suggest that you don't opt for anything with much less than the 500kg as even that is hard to stay within if you want to go on extended holidays?

    There are certain restrictions on vehicles over 3500kg so while trying to get the most you can ?, if you fall within any of the restrictions like age over 70 or will be within the lifetime of the vehicle or certain medical conditions like certain types of diabetes etc. which may preclude you from driving vehicles over 3500kg and therefore need to be taken into account with your choice

    Hope that helps
     
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    How do we do it? I don't really know :Smile:

    There are only the two of us and we don't take stuff we don't need. As regards accessories the stuff we have is pretty lightweight. The FW tank isn't very big on our van so perhaps we aren't carrying so much weight in that as some other vans.

    As far as food goes we usually buy from local shops where we are staying - one of the things we enjoy is differences in local produce.

    Graham
     
  14. 2escapees

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    We have a simple system I put out everything I want to take, my wife puts half of it back and we still take too much!

    :thumb:
     
  15. Exustrek

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    Our Dethleffs has a quoted user payload of 620kgs

    This includes :
    Full fresh water tank (some manufacturers payload figures don't include this & makes 100kgs + difference)
    Full LPG X 2
    90% Derv
    Driver 75kgs

    Don't forget to deduct any fitted options & these soon stack up!

    Luxus Pack
    Liberty Pack
    Roof Air Con
    Oyster Dish etc
    TV DVD system
    Wind out awning
    Towbar
    2nd Leisure battery
    Reversing camera
    Cab blinds
    Engine upgrade

    I doubt there's any change from 200kgs!!! that's before we load any personal effects.

    Haven't made it to our local weighbridge yet but if we were loaded up for a 3 month tour of Europe I'd expect to be pretty close to the limit.

    Bryan
     
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    I have a Swift Royale and the ex works weight from Swift is 1940kg. My max weight is 3100kg.

    With all tanks full, all other equipment and clothing onboard, a motorcycle on a rack at the back and driver and passenger my total weight when measured on a weighbridge was 2897kg. So I still have around 200kg spare. I have to keep as much weight forward as I can to increase the load on the front axle as the bike on the back tends to make the steering quite light.

    Phil.
     
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    Hi Bryan,
    What's your Dethleffs? (just being nosy >:)); we've got the Advantage i5841 and the 'included in Running Mass' is as you state. Our extras are wind out awning, bike rack, satnav, an extra bit of worktop, external gas and electrics; so nothing really OTT and our MGW is 3495kg. With a stand alone awning (35kg), 5 litres can of fuel, tool kit (10kg), barbecue (10kg), outside tables and chairs (20kg), windbreak, groundsheets and sunblind (about 20kg more I imagine) we still have about 360kg left. The missus and the amount I am over 75 comes to 75kg, which leaves 285kg for food, clothing and contents of the cocktail cabinet, (which is where they would have put the telly if I had wanted one). We weighed in at 3.5 tonnes without the missus, so we must take a hell of a lot of wine with us :Rofl1:. Seriously, though, I'm going to take the thing back to the weighbridge in MIRO state and see what that says - I wouldn't be surprised if it was out by several kilos :Sad:

    Have a fabulous year
    John
     
  18. Papa Smurf

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    Thanks all. we're 99.9% certain of getting an RV (which one to be decided over the next 2 weeks or so), and a number I've looked up that are being sold as "can be driven on a standard car licence" obviously expect the buyers to be naturists who are on a diet, such is the poor payload available! Visits to Telford, Cannock and Morton-In-The-Marsh on to be scheduled.

    And yes, I am diabetic, so I need to have a medical when my heart surgery scars heal to regain my C1 entitlement. However, June still has C1, so she can drive.

    This in itself could be interesting, as I am THE world's worst passenger.....
     
  19. highwayman

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    AND you'll be sitting in the wrong seat :Eeek: :Eeek:
     
  20. Papa Smurf

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    No, I shall be in the correct seat, it's just the controls will be in the wrong place!!
     
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