snake bite

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  1. spongy

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    Touring around France at the moment .Our border terrier got bitten by ee ye
    sterday, rushed him to a vet for treatment and the vet did'nt seem to think there are any poisonus snakes in france. Does he know something I dont.
    Glad to say our dog is ok this morning.
    Spongy
     
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    I always thought France had "Adders"... the same as us... :Smile:
     
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    Glad the little fella is ok.... Got me confused. I would even take a dog to the vet in this country in case it was an adder. Do they have adders in France?:Sad:

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    The adder is widespread in Europe and one of a handful of viper related species of poisonous snakes in France which includes the most dangerous, Asp which is only fatal to 4% of those bitten who do no receive treatment. Surprising really; I thought it might be worse.
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    https://sites.google.com/site/venomousdangerous/snakes/europe-s-most-venomous-snakes
    Other snakes are Colubrids (constrictors) plus a few rear fanged snakes that are poisonous but only if they get a good grip and have a massive chew on you so not considered a danger.
     
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    why oh why did i have to read this thread, I am petrified of snakes, even don't like typing the name. And heres us going to France in 4 weeks. think i might have to re considerl!!!! :Eeek::cry::Sad:

    Andrea
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    Adders only frequent a very specific niche in the environment, so the vet may have known that there are no adders in that particular habitat.:thumb:
     
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    They certainly do have adders as we walked past one basking on a towpath whilst in Brittany 3 years ago. :Eeek:

    Glad to hear the little fella's ok
     
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    if you are allergic to any type of venom or analeptic it can prove fatal even a wasp sting can kill :Eeek:
     
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    Ok Andrea ... don't panic.
    Yes we do have adders here, and more specifically down south.

    Their habits are to hide behind stones or under old walls (ruins) . When I was a child, as there was no mobile phone, parents used to be very careful with the children when going to the country side

    1) Wellies on
    2) A wooden stick to make noise (these snakes are dangerous but you are bigger you know:BigGrin: and they run away when you're making noise.
    3) if no stick , shout :shout:
    4) Don't ever sit on an old wall or an old log without having kicked it a few times.
    5) You like blackberries...ok : Keep your hands up don't go down, and stamp your feet each time you're changing area to eat more of these juicy berries :Wink:

    You know it all now , and don't risk anything!

    Oh and if it does happen even with all these advices, then don't SUCK!!!!!
    You can buy in any French "pharmacie" a kit of "ASPIVENIN"
    All normal families here have it before going with children on a treck or even for a walk in the countryside!

    Feeling any better?:BigGrin:

    Amicalement

    Frankie:BigGrin:
     
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    So the outcome of the number of poisonous snakes in France amounts too the Adder and Asp is this correct.:pray:
     
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    I assume there must be alot of them there then'? :Eek!::Eek!::Eek!:
     
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    Well as far as I know ...yes! BUT

    Sorry yes there is a BUT

    In full summer you can find very poisonous scorpios. They won't kill you but will make you really sick!!

    So if you go roughly down south, from lets say a line going from Narbonne to Nice (inlands is even more concerned because less sand and more stones and rocks), then you might find those little devils.

    I used to go to Alès with my children and husband and we had to check shoes every morning and we had little bowls filled up with paraffin oil under each one of the beds feet so they couldn't get into the beds.

    I guess you just have to check. I'm so used to all this, I don't even notice. Last time I was in a campsite, it was in Valras and a huge snake crossed the road along the campsite; You should have heard the people yelling LOL ! this one was just a grass snake .... quite impressive though!:Laughing:
     
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    I didn't want to give you a stupid answer , so I have checked how is snakes population going on . It appears that lots are killed by the humans because of their fear to be bitten. So the number of them is going down


    Here is the link with some wiki info. It seems that the risk is now less important in south Est. Still the same where I live (grrrrrrr)


    Scroll down to "Distribution et habitat" until you can see a little map of France on the right , there's Italy too.



    http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vipère_aspic
     
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    I thought Adders were multiplying.
     
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    :Eeek: Does anybody else feel more scared now than before????/

    Thanks for that Frankie. Very educational and informative...:thumb:
     
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    SNAKE BITE

    Shows how my mind works first thought in my head was; Lager & Cider mixed. :Rofl1:

    Plenty of Adders here in Forest of Dean & plenty of the other as well. :thumb:
     
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    :Sad:Weeing in the woods when caught short may not be an option any longer...:Sad:
     
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    They say a snake once bit you.

    The snake died.
     
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