Seems like the ideal van for us .... but ?

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  1. joggerman

    joggerman Read Only Funster

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    Ok, I have found our ideal van at around £25k, in first class condition.
    Private sale from a pleasant Irish couple living in a nice area.

    Q. How long have you owned the van?
    A. Four weeks. (He is selling as the van is not suitable for him)

    Ok, bells should start to ring here but I figure he buys and sells a bit but does not tell the taxman.
    I have no problem if this is the case, as the van is A1 condition, plus I would have a MACIC inspection done anyway before purchase. (the van is not SCAM cheap but similar to lower end of other private ads for same van).

    So, given that the van will be proved as being A1 condition, I have two questions -

    1. Does an HPI check (which is included in the inspection cost) indisputably prove ownership etc?

    2. Would an instant bank transfer remove any risk from the transaction?

    Or, do you think I'm nuts to even consider going for the van?

    Any advice or opinions warmly received.
     
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    hilldweller Funster Life Member

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    How about contacting the previous owner. If he won't tell you who start worrying.
     
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  3. joggerman

    joggerman Read Only Funster

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    I asked to see the paperwork, so I have the prev owner's name and address from the "logbook", which checks out on line. He let me have as much time as I wanted perusing mot's and service receipts etc.
    Unfortunately I think she's ex directory, as I can't get the number?

    Apparently she sold the van due to the death of her husband.
     
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    HPI

    all i know is hpi check will only cover you against theft if you pay by transfer or card but not cash
     
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    Sounds like you're having doubts and think it may be dodgy in which case walk away plenty of vans for sale.
     
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  6. hilldweller

    hilldweller Funster Life Member

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    Did he show you a receipt ?

    Sounds hopeful, can you visit her ?

    Trouble is all conmen are not like the idiots on ebay, they are so good they get you to want to be conned.

    Have you visited his house and do you think it really is his house ?

    Can you see any cars you could check are his.

    Well anything to give you confidence in him.
     
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  7. Vlad The Impaler

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    If he has only owned it 4 weeks,has he got a registration document ? Probabaly not,if not wait till he has one.If so that should cover the ownership issue.Whats your gut feeling ,what are they like,what's the neighbourhood like.
    There's every possibility that its been bought without proper thought,tried and not liked.Ask lots of questions and if your happy with the answers ask to take it for a test drive .
    Not everything is a scam there are a lot of good vans out there at the right money for you,it's a buyers market.Trust your feelings and good luck.


    Vlad.
     
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    Not all of the right priced vans are dodgy. If what he says is correct and he has bought it from a widow then what he says is possibly right. Put yourself in the shoes of the widow. Her husband has died and she does not want to drive the van. She goes to a dealer who offers her some ridiculous offer and someone she knows that does a little dealing offers more money with no hassle. The guy buys it and puts a little profit on it and everyone is happy except you as you think its too cheap. If the van is right for you and everything checks out what he says buy it. If on the other hand you find the guy selling does not tell the truth on any question you ask then walk away. That has stood me in good stead all my life.
     
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  9. joggerman

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    I saw the V5 and other paperwork, and he let me have as much time to inspect as I wanted.
    He said they had had it six weeks, but the V5 showed three weeks which is why I said three weeks.

    Very nice detached in a nice close, within a mixed neighborhood.
     
  10. Chris

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    Did he say why it wasn't suitable for him?
     
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    I always understood that the V5 (registration document) did not prove ownership only registered keeper. There could be an HP charge or loan charge against it.

    Lunarman
     
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    If it checks out, why not buy it? There are some bargains, and there are some people who want rid after a few weeks. I have picked up some incredible bargains over the years, but, i have done my homework. Good luck.

    Craig
     
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    Thats exactly what its all about...doing your homework :thumb:.
     
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    Is the van taxed and insured? or is he using a dealers insurance, and trade plates? Does he have other vehicles parked at the address. Check the chassis number to make sure it has not been tampered with and actually matches the log book. If you get an insurance quote off your current insurer they will normally tell you if there has been any accident damage etc. I think an HPI check will only guarantee that there is no finance on the vehicle.
     
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    We have a website that tells you if the vehicle has any finace owing on it.Do you not have similar in UK? We do pay a fee but it's well worth it.
     
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    get it bought afore its gone:Smile:
     
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  17. deanroofing

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    Find out how long he as lived at the present address, or that he owns the house,as said shame to lose a deal if the guy is genuine.
     
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    Get HPI done and check what HPI says must be checked ie chassis numbers match what hpi have etc if all ok buy it
    terry
     
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    HPI check

    VIN Check (you can do this online to see if registered stolen or write off)

    V5 - 1, in his name and address - 2, matches VIN on vehicle

    Buy it
     
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  20. TheDogMan

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    When I bought mine from an ebay advert apart from all the usual research & checking owners house etc the HPI check told me there was finance outstanding but on my second visit when he realised I was serious the owner told me about the finance, how much was owing and who to, he did not know I already had the information, I paid the Black Horse finance direct an the balance to the owner.
    Its a scary business buying from a stranger when there is a such a lot of money involved which in my case was over 40k.
    Thats why people buy from dealers - peace of mind !!

    Best of luck how it all works out for you:thumb:

    Dave
     
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