safety t bars.

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  1. Keypresser

    Keypresser Funster

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    I am just in the process of selling my Savannah and buying a new Apache 634.
    The Savannah has a rear t bar fitted and i am considering removing it and fitting to the Apache.
    I expect that the good side is the t bar protects the rear plastic moulding and the down side is it weighs 80kg. That is a big chunk of my payload without a suspension upgrade (about ?xxxxxx cans of beer).
    Any views????
     
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    Don't really know the ins and outs of this, but will it fit your new van, will it take value off your old one, if you need one would a new one be a better bet, ?just asking:)
     
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    Dont think that it will matter on the trade in and could adapt it to fit somehow.
    I will have a rear camera just as the Savannah.
     
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    if the new van is 2012 or newer, you cant fit anything non model specific like a towbar/safety bar
     
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    Is that due to warranty?
     
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    Don't have a clue about t bars but you have one cute little dog.. (sorry for digressing).
     
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    The OP was only using it for protection so there is no requirement for a type approved bar, you can use any sort for protection or for a cycle rack. You need type approved for towing.
     
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    On post 2012 vans you can fit a towbar/ safety bar but it can only be used for a towball mounted back box or bike rack, what you cannot do is tow a trailer with it, if you want to tow with your van and it is 2012 or later it must have a type approved towbar.
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    Thanks Movan, love her to bits.

    Re: T Bar. I only want it for rear protection (if you know what I mean) but as the reversing camera is very good and the weight of the t bar is high I will probably miss it off and let it go with the Savannah.
    As we put all the gear in the Apache I will be weighing it all (Laborious task) to get an idea of how much we carry, better than taking it to the weighbridge as I can tell my wife when we are nearing the limit (once all my gear is packed!)

    Just to clarify, does the MIRO mean a full tank of fuel, 2 gas bottles and a full load of water?

    Many thanks for your replies and clarification.
     
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    Just found the answer.
    It means As the motorhome left the manufacturer with a full tank of fuel and a driver of 75Kg.
    No water, no gas (including the weight of the bottles), no grey water and NO BEER!!!
     
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    Final correction (from Autotrail).
    As the motorhome left the manufacturer with a full tank of fuel and a driver of 75Kg, a 13Kg bottle of gas and I assume a leisure battery (but this is not stated).
     
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    A place I worked at had those T bars on some of their vans. T bar and reversing sensors, and the drivers still managed to find bollards etc and bend the T bars. To be honest it appeared that any accident that would damage the standard bumper, would also bend the T bar.

    I wouldn't bother, much better to have a decent camera and just be careful when reversing! If someone runs into the back end of your van the T bar won't do a thing.
     
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