Renewal of C1 D47P/D4 application forms 56 days before 70th birthday not 90 (1 Viewer)

[Conal]

I have been researching the process to renew my C1 licence as I approach my 70th birthday. Contrary to most googled “information” the DVLA site states that they will send out the above Applications to renew the C1 license 56 days before the applicant‘s 70th birthday, not 90 days as stated by Moneysaving expert and “Martin Lewis’” website. I think most of the links I found related to the application for a C1 licence, not a renewal of one.
Do others more knowledgeable that I agree with my findings?

 

[Treeeev]

Hi Conal

I was waiting for my C1 licence renewal at 3 months before my birthday as had been previously published, but my renewal arrived approximately 56 days before my 70th birthday which agrees with your findings . Medical completed today and forms now in the post to DVLA

Cheers

Trevor

 

[franknjan]

Hi. My 70th birthday is 2 March. I received my renewal notice end of December.
My friends birthday is 26 March, he had renewal last Saturday. He doesn't need C1 so renewed on line, he messaged me yesterday to say he'd received his new licence.
With regards to mine. I had medical to renew C1 on Saturday (failed on eyesight) Had eye test Tuesday morning and posted everything to DVLA that afternoon, we will see how long it takes.
Frank.

 

[Lenny HB]

They only send a rewnal notice and form for a standard B licence. For a C1 you have to request the D2/D4 pack on the DVLA website or get them from a main Post Office (if you can find one).

 

[denisejoe]

I was sent mine 90 days before it ran out.

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[rod_vw]

The D4 is available as a download from the Government site, is the D2 also available? I've not found it yet.

 

[Lenny HB]

The D4 is available as a download from the Government site, is the D2 also available? I've not found it yet.

No they only send it by post, or get it from a Post office.

 

[angusboy]

Just had mine d2-d4 ordered on line birthday in June,2 months wait for a medical with my doctors 78pounds but they have my records,I've had a by-pass 18 years ago so we have some hurdles to go over regards

 

[Orion]

Don’t send your renewal in too early though, otherwise it will be dated from when the application is approved rather than the expiry date of your existing licence. I’ve lost 2 months validity because of it and the DVLA won’t reconsider.

 

[angusboy]

Out in June when shoul I send regards

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[Orion]

Within the 56 day period prior to expiry appears to be okay to avoid any loss of entitlement.

Yep, just checked the letter I received from the DVLA when I queried the early expiry and it states:

“When a renewal application is processed during the 56 day invitation period the anniversary of the previous licence is preserved.”

 

[nicholsong]

The D4 is available as a download from the Government site, is the D2 also available? I've not found it yet.

You cannot download D2 because it has a plasticised box for the photo, so it has to be by post or main P.O.

 

[angusboy]

Do I need to send license back ta

 

[Orion]

Do I need to send license back ta

I didn’t, neither did Mrs Orion, and we both received our renewals without queries.

 

[Lenny HB]

Don’t send your renewal in too early though, otherwise it will be dated from when the application is approved rather than the expiry date of your existing licence. I’ve lost 2 months validity because of it and the DVLA won’t reconsider.

You don't lose any time provided you don't apply before 90 days before the due date.

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[Lenny HB]

Do I need to send license back ta

Yes but make sure you keep a copy of it.

 

[Folkranger]

Don’t send your renewal in too early though, otherwise it will be dated from when the application is approved rather than the expiry date of your existing licence. I’ve lost 2 months validity because of it and the DVLA won’t reconsider.

The DVLA took 5 months to renew mine due to a mix up at their end. You can still use your vehicle while waiting. Fortunately this gave me 5 months extra on the new licence.

 

[Lenny HB]

You can still use your vehicle while waiting.

Only in the UK.

 

[Orion]

You don't lose any time provided you don't apply before 90 days before the due date.

I beg to differ.

The letter I received back from the DVLA after querying the loss of the 2 months entitlement makes it clear that the cutoff point is 56 days prior to the original expiry date:

“If a customer submits a renewal application and it is processed earlier than the 56 days before the expiry date or after the entitlement has expired, then this is considered an independent application and the licence renews for 3 years exactly.”

The RAC agree that this is the situation:

“According to the DVLA, you can apply to renew your UK driving licence two months before its expiry date. You can find that out on the back of your photocard.

However, your new licence will be valid from the date the application is approved instead of the expiry date of the previous licence.”

Almost a million drivers at risk of receiving £1,000 fine | RAC Drive

Almost a million UK drivers could receive a £1,000 fine because they have not renewed their photocard licences which expired over the last 12 months.

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That’s not to say that some renewals might have been processed outwith the DVLA rules/guidance above, and the lucky applicant hasn’t lost any period of entitlement, but if anyone wants to avoid any possibility of it happening then don’t submit the application before the 56 day cutoff.

 

[Lenny HB]

That’s not to say that some renewals might have been processed outwith the DVLA rules/guidance above, and the lucky applicant hasn’t lost any period of entitlement, but if anyone wants to avoid any possibility of it happening then don’t submit the application before the 56 day cutoff.

Then you have to send a new photo.
Renewed both of ours outside the 56 days licence renewed from expiry date.

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[Conal]

They only send a rewnal notice and form for a standard B licence. For a C1 you have to request the D2/D4 pack on the DVLA website or get them from a main Post Office (if you can find one).

We used the Gov website link to get the D2/D4 forms

 

[Conal]

You don't lose any time provided you don't apply before 90 days before the due date.

56 days for the C1

 

[Conal]

I initially realised that the 90 days may not be for renewal when I tried to book with SpecSavers for an eye test and they asked for an “Mxxxxxx” reference. A little research led to the DVLA site where I found that that reference is on the letter the DVLA send out 56 days before the applicant’s 70th birthday. The website is not by very clear as it also states that the DVLA send the letter out of curtesy, not because it is a requirement. Again, I think this is because they are not specifically referring to those of us who are applying to renew our C1s.

 

[Folkranger]

Only in the UK.

True. Got me hols in first then applied.

 

[Folkranger]

We used the Gov website link to get the D2/D4 forms

Just for general clarity, you can order the forms on line but you can't print the D2 form on line. It has to be their own preprinted version, by post office or posted to you.

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[Conal]

Yes, as an earlier poster said it is not just paper but has a sticky oblong on page 1 to affix a photo.

 

[Folkranger]

D2 - Just be prepared for one of the most diifficult, badly designed forms ever. The DVLA should be ashamed for designing forms that are so vague as to what they want. I had two days of Google headache trying to unravel the mysteries of the D2 form. You really shouldn't have to resort to google and youtube to find out how to fill in a form, especially when the DVLA provide 3 forms of explanation. (unfortunately all of them contradictory).

 

[nicholsong]

D2 - Just be prepared for one of the most diifficult, badly designed forms ever. The DVLA should be ashamed for designing forms that are so vague as to what they want. I had two days of Google headache trying to unravel the mysteries of the D2 form. You really shouldn't have to resort to google and youtube to find out how to fill in a form, especially when the DVLA provide 3 forms of explanation. (unfortunately all of them contradictory).

All they need is a letter to confirm that nothing has changed and 'I apply for same categories, here is my D4.' End of!

 

[Rwethere]

I copy all the completed forms before sending in makes it easier for me to renew.

 

[Folkranger]

All they need is a letter to confirm that nothing has changed and 'I apply for same categories, here is my D4.' End of!

Would that it were so!

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