Red and white square plates.

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  1. Bushtrekker

    Bushtrekker Read Only Funster

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    I've noticed these on several pictures and wondered if they are a legal requirement in some countries?
     
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    I assume ypou are talking about the reflective signs with diagonal red & white stripes and reflectors. These should be placed on anything that sticks out the back of the vehicle, such as a bike rack. They are a legal requirement in some countries, but a good idea anyway as draws peoples attention to a possible hazard. They're not specific to motorhomes. A bike rack on a car should have one, also a long load on a roof rack that sticks out beyond the back of the car.
     
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  3. Ridgeway

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    Just bought one today as we were in Italy at the weekend, although realized that the Italian and Spanish ones are different:Angry: think I'll be sticking with one and pleading ignorance...
     
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    I have also noticed at the circus they spin plates on pointed sticks... is this to keep the food in the centre of the plate:Rofl1:
     
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    hi, no its to flick the food off .bit like standing up on a whurlitzer.(at the fair) or perhaps you never tried .hee hee
     
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    I thought you meant dinner plates:Rofl1::Rofl1::Rofl1: but see what you mean now:RollEyes:

    Margaret
     
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    I think its Spain and Italy where they are legally required, there are restrictions on how much the bike rack can protrude, 10% of the vans length ( I think)

    I don't normally bother attaching it in the UK. If somone is close enough to get a handlebar in the eye; they're too close:Smile:
     
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    My first thought was the same and I was thinking no, that'll clash with a blue interior, but I do like square (dinner) plates. :RollEyes:
     
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    Red and white plates

    Hi all I have been following this with interest.some questions I know you folk will know the answers.what is the difference between Italian and Spanish bike rack boards . I was just about to send for a board ( off to Italy) when I read that the Italians want you to use a aluminiun plate which is totally reflective .
    Ridgeway posted to say he bought one in Italy what was it made of ?
    Yours June and dave ( Dotsontour)
     
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    I understand that the reflective aluminium article is a legal requirement in Italy However, I have used a plastic red and white striped one there. It has reflective red discs in each corner.

    They are made by Fiamma (an Italian company) - plastic ones cost £6, the aluminium one is £32 - take your pick depending on how 'legal' you want to be. Available from John Cross (might get a bit of discount?)

    Scroll down this page: http://www.johnscross.co.uk/categories/Fiamma/Fiamma-Carry-Bike-Accessories/?sort=featured&page=2
     
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    Red striped rear warning boards for overhanging loads sometimes called chevron boards. These back marker boards are now compulsory in Italy and Spain for all over-hanging items - even an empty rack! Easily attached to almost all motorhomes, caravans, 4x4s, vans, etc., with the four holes provided for elastic e.g. Do Note that there is a right and wrong way round to fit these; the stripes must point down towards the offside of the vehicle, i.e. to the centre of the road wherever you are. We have illustrated the UK fitting here but in Europe it should be fitted the other way - with the word Fiamma the right way up! Regulations state the signal must be the aluminium type if the vehicle is over 12m long but most motorcaravanners fit the plastic one to their motorhome or camper van
    Must have round refletcor lenses fitted see pic
    No difference for Italy or Spain
    Geo
     

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    Went through this yesterday at the camping shop, also looks like the red bars are thicker on the spanish one, sounds daft I know but we compared the 2 and they were different. The shop owner is a 40yr veteran with his motorhome and said that he has only ever used the Italian version all over Europe without problems so i went for that. The one I have is made of Alu but doesn't have corner reflectors.

    It will make a good Frisbee when we're board...
     
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    The Alu one is the commercial/superior version and reflectors are not required as the whole surface red and white are reflective:thumb:
    With the plastic version you often only get painted non reflective red and white stripes
    Skim it my way:BigGrin:
     
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    Ah I get it now:Doh:

    This Alu thingy could also be used as an effective weapon in the hands of Odd Job, bring down someone at 50m I'd reckon
     
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    in Italy they have to be made of metal

    You can buy elcheapo plastic types.. these are not legal in Italy.

    I always put on on the back of my wheelchair carrier regardless if it is on the car, or on the car on the trailer if you follow me.. both in the UK and Europe... if you tow in europe there are different warning plates dependent on how long the vehicle and trailer are.

    Do not forget the speed disc that needs to be on the vehicle in europe. (different countries have different regulations).

    Bob
     
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    It's a complicated life isn't it.:Doh::Doh: With vehicles travelling all over europe and beyond with all those different regulations. How many sets of numbers do we need and how would those following know which numbers apply where?:Eek!::Eek!:

    I have a picture of a van just covered in numbers:Laughing:.
     
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    you are not far wrong

    You are not far wrong... if you look at a European lorry in the UK see how many roundels it has 70. 80. 90. 100 kph etc.,

    In France as I pull a trailer and I am over 3.5 tons I cannot do more than 90 kph or about 55 mph... but you have different regs for below 3.5 tons and above... plus different sign boards dependent how long you are.

    Bob:Blush:
     
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