Possible Gaslow Fault?

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  1. Dorset Diver

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    Pulled into our usually station to top off our Gaslows and had a problem. The van is new to us and the new R67 twin Gaslow cylinders were fitted by the seller. This was the first time I had filled them. Connected the pump as normal and added about 20 litres. Dropped the lever and went to disconnect but instead of the usual quick pressure release gas kept pouring out. At a guess a non-return valve had stuck open. Eventually something changed and the flow stopped, got the filler disconnected checked the gauges and both cylinders were showing full. Will not be able to try again for a while but wondered if this is a common problem.
     
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    :( Crumbs. I am gonna watch with interest... I havn't filled mine up yet and am really nervous. Can I ask how quickly your monitor go down? I have had heating on day and night for two days but the lever hasn't moved from full.. Is this normal? I would have thought I would have used enough gas to show some movement.
     
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    I would phone gaslow directly
     
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    Which bottles have you got Joy are they the older style or the new R67?
     
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    I expect gaslow are similar to my alugas. The monitor reads full until it gets below half, then goes down as gas is used. It's because of the positioning of the float
     
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    Hi Andy, sorry I don't know. When I go to my mh at the farm I will photo them. They are orangey red and about the size of the 11kg ones .. and I have two. Will come back tomorrow with a photo. :)
     
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    Gasit then?
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    do your gauges look like this? if they do then they don't begin to move until the bottle is half empty. They only indicate the last 50% of the contents
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    Thank you @Techno Appreciate that.... It was Autogas2000 who fitted them and I have no complaints. :)

    Sorry @Dorset Diver ... I hope this information of help to you too and someone along soon to help with your full query.
     
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    If it's a worry for you about refilling? I'll happily go with you for support to top it up at Chester
     
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    A quick update. Been in touch with Gaslow and it would appear that Southdown's have fitted a non-Gaslow filler. The suspicion is that its built-in non-return valve did not work correctly. I will update when I have more info.
     

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    I don't think that the non-Gaslow fill point will have anything to do with it.

    The non return valve will be on the Gaslow cylinder. (That may be what you meant when you said 'its built in non return valve', but not sure whether 'it' referred to the cylinder or the fill point).
     
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    How do you connect to that, our internal one sticks out and the filler nozzle goes over it , yours appears to go inside.
     
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    I meant the fill point. There is a non-return valve on each cylinder and the filler. What appears to have happened is that when I tried to disconnect the pump nozzle the NRV did not seal and the pipework emptied rather than retaining the gas as it should have done.
     
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    Both the gaslow bottle and filler hose connection have non return valves. If the fill connection he has doesn't have a non return valve then the liquid contents of the hose will spill out upon disconnection.

    EDIT beat me to it (y)
     
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    As you have adaptors for different filler types I have one extra for UK nozzles.
     
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    Andy the filler should have an NRV but it appears to be faulty. Now a work in progress to fix.
     
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    Well you learn something everyday - I just thought it was on the cylinder and that the 'poof' of gas on release was from the hose.

    I suppose thinking about it, if it's a really long filler hose then that could be quite a bit of gas, so it makes sense that the fill point would also have a non return valve.
     
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    @movan
    This is exactly the same procedure despite it being a car

     
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