Non UK domiciled

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  1. Yorick

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    I read this on another thread and it's got me worried.
    In a couple of years we intend to retire early. Plan is Spring/summer in our UK house. Summer/ Autumn in our French house. Winter in Lanzarote.

    Will we be classed as non UK domiciled as we will be abroad 8 months of year?

    Do we have anything to worry about ?

    Cheers

    Yorick
     
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    Surely, no matter how long you've been away, as a Brit as soon as you are back in the UK you are entitled.
     
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  3. Yorick

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    It's a bit complicated. Me dad lives in Lanzarote and he loses his benefits here.

    What I quoted was in here

    I am a bit confused as how will anybody know I am out of the country ?
     
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    Yes, you will be a non UK resident. You'll receive a letter saying you're not entitled to NHS treatment but saying that in an emergency you won't be refused. I fell out of a motorhome at the Shrewsbury show and was treated at A&E.

    You can still pay into National Insurance if you live outside the UK. An EHIC card will entitle you to same state health treatment as a resident in European country. I found in France I could go to any GP, pay about €23 for consultation, difference was I didn't get €21 refunded on Carte Vitelle. If you are of state pension age, you might be entitled to a Carte Vitelle. Sargozy changed the rules just after I moved to France so I wasn't entitled to one. Early retires don't qualify, I fear.

    As long as you have a French address you can insure your vehicle. If it still has UK plates you will be issued with a new green sticker for the windscreen every month until its on French plates. Google Bruno Sellier in Cognac. They deal with all of France, everyone speaks perfect English and you can even get your policy in English. Recommend them highly.

    As you still have a UK property I'd stick with UK insurance with all of Europe cover and keep your UK plates. Yes, I know you're not supposed to but I know people who've lived in France 10 years still driving on UK plates.

    If you consider you are resident in France you also have to register with the local tax office. Good luck with that........I'm still recovering from the near breakdown they caused me.......

    Once you return to UK you have to live here 12 months before you can re register in the NHS.

    Your situation is complex as you'll still be paying council tax on your UK home, so I wouldn't rush into declaring anything official.
     
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    P.S officialdom knows you are out of the country as soon as you tell the. Either by having official mail ( eg pension letters) sent to a French address, or by filling in the form to declare your own tax if you let out a UK property.

    And NHS rules state returning to UK you have to be here 12 months before claiming treatment ( used to be 6 months)
     
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    Bollox :cry:

    Plan was that I will be 55 and the missus 50.

    Not really retiring, just spending 8 months in warmer places. And only work part of the 4 months we will be in UK.

    Can't it be classed as an extended holiday?

    When I was 25, I went backpacking for 12 months and lost no benefits on return.
     
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    Been spending 10 months of the year in different EU countries for the last five years. We still have a UK address ,driving licence,bank accounts, still pay UK tax & insurance. We do return for a week at Christmas & Easter and 2 months in the summer, only problem is getting the doc's to issue more than two months prescriptions....ours won't. No problems otherwise as far as I can see if you keep everything official based in the UK.
     
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    Hmm, I am getting opposing opinions here :Sad:

    Can I choose which is best ? :BigGrin:
     
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    Your confusion may be because the title of your thread is 'Non UK Domiciled' which is a totally different thing to what I am doing and what,I think, you are proposing.
    I am still UK domiciled.
     
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    Oops, I was unsure really.

    So as long as I have house here and properly based here, I will be OK ?
     
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    I am not an expert and can only speak from my experience but we have had no problems. We don't have foreign property but as far as I can see as long as you stay officially a UK taxpayer etc I cannot see any problems unless of course they change the rules.
    Then there is always Easyjet/Ryanair etc for a quick visit.
     
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    We plan to take the camper over to Lanzarote. Can get decent ferry prices from Cadiz :Smile:
     
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    as you will have a home here and pay tax and council tax, you wont be non uk domeciled, just in another eu state for part of the year and on holiday for the rest

    the system has a tight hold on you these days and wont like letting go. as in the other thread its very difficult to genuinely drop off the radar. big brother IS watching you..... and youve been a very naughty boy! (In a monty python voice of course):Rofl1:
     
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    I think that it's once you go over 3 months away, you become non-resident in terms of entitlements.

    If you can break up your time in other places to under 3 months at a time, you would still be entitled to NHS benefits etc. and viewed as the UK still being your main residence.
     
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