NEW MoT TEST DPF REGS MAY 2017 (1 Viewer)

[Geo]

Changes are to be made to the MOT as part of a revised Roadworthiness Directive which comes into force from May 2017 and new technology is being developed to detect DPF removal.

In a statement the Department for Transport (DfT) said: “Alternative methods of detecting the presence of particulate filters are under development, we are examining their suitability for a MoT testing environment

The government investigation followed urgent calls for reform with claims that the current MOT is failing to identify many cases of DPF removal because it only includes a ‘visual inspection’ of the hardware, which can be welded back together.

It is an offence, under the Road Vehicles Regulations to use a vehicle which has been modified in such a way that it no longer complies with the air pollutant emissions standards it was designed to meet.

The DfT said: “Removal of a DPF will almost invariably result in a contravention of the Regulations, making the vehicle illegal to use on the road.

Penalties are £1,000 for a car and £2,500 for a van.

“The legislation makes the owner or user of the vehicle primarily responsible for its condition.

“Whether the person who had removed the DPF, or had offered to remove it, had also committed an offence would be a matter for the courts to decide.”

Speaking earlier this year, Dave Garratt, chief executive at the Garage Equipment Association (GEA), said: “[DPF removal] has been going on for a long time and it is probably getting progressively worse.

“The biggest hole in the MOT is that they don’t really check it.
Hopefully with introduction of new testing equipment this loophole will be closed for good
G

 

[WynandJean]

I often download messages in .pdf format. Does this mean I can no longer delete them!


Wyn

 

[Les]

DPF ?

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[Phaeton]

DPF ?

Diesel Particulate Filter

 

[Les]

Thanks

 

[hilldweller]

new technology is being developed to detect DPF removal.
G

Better get saving Geo, "new tech" sounds expensive and anyway, will you understand it ?

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[Geo]

It will be expensive for sure, tis you who had better start saving as the cost will be passed on,
but very simple Brian,so long as I get as much understanding from it as you do a Multi Meter, and if there is magic smoke in it so much the better all should be well
Probably a OBD11 plug in to see it working within limits if its not there it will struggle to see it

 

[mitzimad]

its great this going green we get light bulbs that take 5 mins to warm up, toilets that have to be flushed twice and technology on vehicles that make vehicles beyond economic repair in very few years where the only way to fix is to remove said item

 

[hilldweller]

its great this going green we get light bulbs that take 5 mins to warm up, toilets that have to be flushed twice and technology on vehicles that make vehicles beyond economic repair in very few years where the only way to fix is to remove said item

Exactly. "Progress" is the work you are looking for.

Though right now we do seem to be heading in the right direction with LED 240v lamps, at long last.

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[Eddystone]

and this adding to the problems of those who de-cat (remove the catalytic converter) the exhaust pipe.

 

[jezport]

wait til we have all the problems caused by going to euro6, Adblue, SCR etc

 

[movan]

Didn't understand any of this.... can you just say yes or no .. do I have to do anything?

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[pappajohn]

Probably a OBD11 plug in to see it working within limits if its not there it will struggle to see it

Then of course, someone will come up with an ECU map which fools OBD into thinking it IS still there.
I think VOSA are on a road to nowhere.
There will always be someone who is one step ahead of them.

 

[Sundowners]

How would a buyer of a secondhand vehicle know if the guts had been removed ?

 

[pappajohn]

How would a buyer of a secondhand vehicle know if the guts had been removed ?

Caveat emptor !.......or however it's spelt.

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[MC 55 FUN]

Didn't understand any of this.... can you just say yes or no .. do I have to do anything?

If no one has removed your DPF, if indeed you have one - NO

 

[pappajohn]

I can see, in the near future, to sell a vehicle it MUST have a new MOT.
The same criteria has been in use in South Africa for years.....and that's the ONLY time in the vehicles lifetime that it must legally have an MOT.
Although, You will be prosecuted for using an unroadworthy vehicle if in an accident and faults are found.

 

[gus-lopez]

Didn't understand any of this.... can you just say yes or no .. do I have to do anything?

I don't think yours has one Joy , so you wouldn't have to do anything.

Then of course, someone will come up with an ECU map which fools OBD into thinking it IS still there.
I think VOSA are on a road to nowhere.
There will always be someone who is one step ahead of them.

Exactly.
Or they'll do what the Germans do for the TüV, remove anything not legal, & refit after. Same as goes on here with non-homologated (Not registered on log book) items. Even done it myself.

How would a buyer of a secondhand vehicle know if the guts had been removed ?

They wouldn't.

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[busby]

I think a big improvement or addition to MOT would be a limit on exhaust sound,,should be a max decibel rate,,Would take most of the boy(and middle age) races off the road,,After all noise is pollution,, BUSBY,,,

 

[Geo]

How would a buyer of a secondhand vehicle know if the guts had been removed ?

The MoT tester will tell him

I think a big improvement or addition to MOT would be a limit on exhaust sound,,should be a max decibel rate,,Would take most of the boy(and middle age) races off the road,,After all noise is pollution,, BUSBY,,,

There already is, it depends on the opinion of the tester, at the time of test Ive failed two in a lifetime they cant give us a Db figure as it would vary location by location

Then of course, someone will come up with an ECU map which fools OBD into thinking it IS still there.
I think VOSA are on a road to nowhere.
There will always be someone who is one step ahead of them.

Since the recent VWE scandle electronic alone tested wont be exceptable
they are talking actual gas measurement well as electronic so it will need to be clever software to beat an analiser

Didn't understand any of this.... can you just say yes or no .. do I have to do anything?

No, Females will be exempt