MOT Lighting question

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  1. PORKSTER

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    I know some people on here know there MOT stuff so I am hoping someone can answer me this question. My headlight bracket is broken on my car it causes my headlight to shake/vibrate you can see this in the car in front or on road signs. So should it could it pass MOT reason I ask is I asked my dealer to fix this issue under warranty as it would be a waste of time taking it for MOT as it could fail. I also mentioned some other faults I would like them to address with the manufacturer. When I picked up car they failed to look at headlight they forgot even though I had 2 separate conversations with them about it. But they was really keen to do an update on my panoramic roof blind which takes all day under warranty Rumour is its a 90 minute job they get paid 9 hours for. But my concern for now is should it have passed MOT thanks for any advice in advance Paul
     
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    Not an expert on MOT.. .. Geo is the man .. but I would say it should be a fail..

    MOT Manual states the headlight must be secure.. insecure is a failure ..

    http://www.ukmot.com/1-2.asp#Text_top
     
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    Reading that I would say its a fail too
     
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    Back from Tennerife just in time:thumb:

    The headlamp unit its self is secure, so thats ok on that score:thumb:

    The beam will be/appear stable when the vehicle is stationary, as its so close to the beam tester, if so, thats ok too:thumb:

    The aim will most likely be unaffected by vibration. Ok No3:thumb:

    The actual test although requires a light tap to check security, it does not require it to be tapped whilst looking at beam image for vibration/movement, Ok N0 4 then

    Gentlemen this looks like and is indeed a PASS :Doh:
    But worthy of an advise if any internal movement is noticed.
    You might if you want to, bring this fault to your testers notice if you want documented proof of a fault, it should be retified as a matter of course under warranty as the lamp is after all broken:Cool:
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    Thanks when the car is parked right up against a wall you can see it flicker which is vibration. And its really noticeable on large street signs from some distance away.Not sure what to do now basicly I want them to repair it under warranty but dealer says they won't.maybe a phone call to manufacturer may help.
     
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    Hi again
    IF you are certain the lamp unit is faulty or broken, and the warranty covers such defects, then you have a clear case for the work to be carried out free of charge
    ie the lamp unit is "clearly and demonstrably" faulty

    How you approach this depends on your desire for a future relationship with this dealer

    Even though this fault may or may not be an MoT fail item (I have demonstrated reasons why it may not be) when inspected I may have a completely different view
    You might want to use any poker playing skills you have and call their bluff.
    Suggest to them you have taken advise and will be asking VOSA for an "Inverted Appeal" this is an appeal against the issue of a pass certificate in a case whereby you believe it should have failed
    using that phrase will tell them you have spoken to someone who knows MoT procedure
    and they will know how inconvenient and worrying an inverted appeal can be to them
    The threat alone may get you a new lamp :Wink:
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    Like your thinking I have just looked at mot cert and checked on website that there is no advisorys and nothing comes up. But what I have just notice is that it was done by an independent garage so the main dealer hasn't a mot bay. Im up in the air with it realy as they meant to be doing the roof blinds which is meant to be a hellish job infact im shitting myself at the fact of them touching it takeing the insides of my car apart:Doh: And I only have just over 2 weeks warrenty left:Angry:
     
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    Ok if the roof job is so "Hellish" and a money spinner :Wink:
    Tell them they might loose the job cause you have found a dealer who will fix the roof and lamp at the same time.
    You can still tell them you are going to see the independent MoT station for the Appeal form
    they wont want to fall out with a friendly test station will they:Wink:
    If they took your car for an Mot for you, is the cost shown on your invoice, if so it should be plus vat, if not they owe the vat man a lot of dosh too
    Geo
     
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    Looks like mot test is down as parts and only vat showing for the actual parts total of parts show as
    73.60 gross
    69.67 net
    3.93 vat
    Labour was 82.00 environmental charge 9.48 as labour too reeds

    109.78 gross
    91.48 net
    18.30 vat

    See its getting to me I cant sleep:RollEyes:
     
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