Keeping cool

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  1. Kevingrc

    Kevingrc Funster

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    Hi folks just wondered how you keep cool when in say southern Spain in July, haven't bought our motorhome yet but while looking we don't see a lot with AC in habitation,are the portables OK,we've seen one that hangs outside on window while fan is inside,
    Thanks in advance.
     
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    Before we got our MH I looked at the unit you describe, but if memory serves, they have a very low output, and so in the intense summer heat of Spain, probably be close to useless.
    We purchased a second hand rooftop AC unit from our dealer, and he fitted it. And so far, we are extremely happy with it. We did have a few teething problems with it, the unit leaked in the first rainfall after purchase, but took it back and it was all sorted.
    I'd say that you'd be better off getting a rooftop unit, but that's my personal opinion, I await to be corrected :)
     
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    Window ones.. waste of money.. roof top ones work well, but they do need an EHU with at least 6amps .. and in Spain a lot of hook ups are not only small amperage but also metered.. so you will end up with a large bill. Roof a/c is also noisy .. will keep you awake and also annoy your neighbours ..

    We had two on the RV roof, .. one in the bedroom and one in the lounge.. . we ran the bedroom unit before going to bed for an hour or so, that was nice.. but it soon warmed up again.. .. but to be frank, I would either avoid Spain in high summer, or acclimatise.. you do get used to heat eventually.. no point in going there and sitting indoors with a/c running.

    A 12 " desk fan works quite well..

    Frankly, I wouldn't bother with it.. .. but would not be without Cab A/C.. that is an absolute must for driving in Southern Europe in summer..
     
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    Yes very valid point, although on the outside ours is quite quiet, the compressor does hum. On the inside it is too noisy to allow sleep. We run ours for about an hour in the evening at about 6, when we put daughter to bed. Keep all doors and windows closed, whilst myself and OH enjoy a glass of wine outside. When we turn in for the night, it is still cool enough inside to allow sleep. Ours also has a fan mode, which is very quiet, and we use that to keep the air circulated.
    This keeps the leccy bill down, but more importantly, doesn't annoy your neighbours.
     
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    Have had roof top ac and would not bother again, noisey and expensive.....it's like trying to sleep on a flight?

    You get used to the heat after a few days to be honest. We just bring a 12 inch fan and that adequate to be honest, have had to turn it off during the night as gets to cool :)

    Personally would avoid med Spain July August as it really does get hot! That for someone who goes to India etc.......
     
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    Thanks everyone I think we'll try acclimatisation and a fan before the expense of a roof top unit and won't bother at all with a portable one,
    cheers Kevin and Lynn
     
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    Probably the best and cheapest option, as Scot said, you aren't going to be sitting inside much, you'll be outside enjoying the weather :D
     
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    Have a good trip.. a few tips..

    1. Always try to find a pitch under shade .. out in the open when it's 40c is not pleasant. If you have no shade, an awning helps , park up with it facing north.. this will maximize the shaded space.

    2. some sites have a scaffold type frame around the pitches to hang your own sun screens over.. so take some cheap plastic tarp... can also be used as a groundsheet on sandy pitches.. most are, helps keep the sand and grit out of your van ..

    3. On most sites the ground is like concrete .. if you have an awning, ground sheet or wind break and are going to use pegs.. take a bunch of 6in nails and a 2lb lump hammer.. ordinary pegs just bend... a wooden mallet is as good as a chocolate fire guard

    4. Many sites will have a continental EHU .. you will need a continental adapter.

    5. You may also need more than 20mts of EHU cable.. an extra 10 mt will come in useful.

    6. Fridges struggle in high summer.. so try to park with the fridge vents facing North, also consider fitting an extractor fan in the TOP vent.. this helps enormously.. A 12v PC fan is ideal .. Dometic have their own expensive version.

    7. Water may be some distance from your pitch... a watering can can be very useful for topping up.. buy one locally if needed.

    anything else.. just ask..

    Typical Spanish site , note scaffold poles and some tree shade .. also used for satellite dish..

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    Filling.. only a few more to go ..

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    Thanks a lot scotjimland will take all tips on board.
     
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    @ScotJimland
    I have plenty of cable for the hookup, but are you saying normal British Extension Cable is no good abroad?
     
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    no, I didn't say that,

    the normal length of a hook up cable is 25 mts, and will suffice on most sites... but on SOME sites and aires you MAY need more.. better to carry an extra 10mt than find you are short .

    When full time, I used to carry 2 x 25 mt and 1 x 10mt .. this covered just about any eventuality.. and I have used them all on a French aire..
     
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    Thanks - That makes me feel happier :)

    Any particular continental adaptor you recommend?
     
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    Thanks (y)
     
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    A bucket of ice in front of a fan works quite well. :)
     
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    yes.. it would.. if you have an ice making machine.. :LOL:

    reminds me of my early camping days in the south of France in the 70s..
    We had no fridge, but the camp shop sold blocks of ice for the cool box.. by the time you got back to the tent it was nearly melted.. :ROFLMAO:

    happy days..
     
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    Just a bowl of water works but you can usually buy ice in the supermarket, pack it in a cool bag and Robert's your Mum's brother. :)
     
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    sacrilege! ice is for scotch! :)
     
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