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GeorgeTelford
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Just as PapaJohn says cannot be reversed under control.
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I have only ever attempted to reverse straight backyards and only in an tight spot where it would be the easiest and quickest option.
By no means an everyday option (detaching is the best way)
I have only tried to say you can in certain circumstances.
Just as PapaJohn says cannot be reversed under control.
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no probs roadrunner.
we'll have to arrange a meet then we can have a proper fight.:thumb:
john
Just as PapaJohn says cannot be reversed under control.
Good point Tony and those at the rally will see I use a jockey wheel with my A frame and manoeuvre the car around with it on detached from the RV and in fact had to do this at Eurotunnel on the way home from France when they expected me to do a U turn onto the trainoh:
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just out of intrest, where does the jockey wheel fit as the "A" frame has up and down movement.
john.
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I would love to see some A frame reversal Demo's at a meet (heh a new sport !!)![]()
PS thats why the right to remain silent is so important, if an officer had taken down "I have alway said straight back, and doesn't work every time but i will reverse back" this is an admission of lack of control and it would be a fair cop guv, Book him Danno Road traffic act 1997 sec 33 1/3![]()
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Hi John
I would love to meet you all (really) far easier to chew the fat, put the world to rights.
Reversing straight back hmmm, I could actually see me arguing a case in your favour there, if you removed doesnt work every time, I think we all know what under control is really meant to mean, but they dont really define what "under control means" of course we all know what it really means, but thats not the same thing in court.
PS thats why the right to remain silent is so important, if an officer had taken down "I have alway said straight back, and doesn't work every time but i will reverse back" this is an admission of lack of control and it would be a fair cop guv, Book him Danno Road traffic act 1997 sec 33 1/3![]()
Hi John
Yes they all have problems, BUT they are legal, the problem with A frames is that they are not, ps If you are ever asked by plod do not say anything, because you would be admitting guilt and they would not have to prove it, hung by your own petard (realistically they can get you on several other points, but why make it easier)
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Hi Bryan
I have tried to imagine the device as described.
The power required to force the over run device apart would be beyond the reversing light circuits capabilities. (2X21 watt and very little spare power)
If it merely keeps the shaft locked open, its possible on the power available to do that, however if the vehicle was facing down hill it would not work as the shaft would never be in the open position to be locked out.
I can find no other reference to the device you mention on the internet, is the name right? Other point that bugs me is why would this device have been made in the first place? ie what was its purpose?
George
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Hi,
I have just had a reply regarding the subject above from a member of the www.ukcampsite.co.uk apparently the item described was called a "Marston Reverse Master" but that's all I can find, has anyone any more details?
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hi bryan,
i have used one of these devices(though maybe not the same make) and they were very effective.
the one i refer to had a cast lever/plate built into the overrun body casting.
as a basic explaination, remove the bellows from a modern overrun then place a semi cylindrical steel plate on top of the sliding tube so the tube is cover along it's length,
now the slider cannot move when pressure is exerted to it as it will be locked,by the plate between the hitch head and the overrun body.
the plate was hinged lengthways on a pin attached to the overrun casting and was simply swung out of the way and allowed to hang down when not needed. it possibly had an overcenter spring originally !!
as george said if the trailer was pointing downhill the overrun tube would be slightly compressed, not allowing the plate to engage so apply the trailer handbrake, allow the towing car to move downhill, reapply car handbrake then swing over the locking device, release trailer h/brake then reverse as normal.
the only drawback was remembering to release the plate before driving off.
all very 'heath robinson' but it worked well.
i'v never seen the selonoid version but i can picture it very clearly.
is there any wonder they invented auto reverse.
john.
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