HELP ~ any legal eagles out there?

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  1. Bugbox

    Bugbox Read Only Funster

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    Am thinking about he legalities of having a vehicle wrapped in another companies graphics so it would help pay for the upkeep of motorhome when travelling around. This would sponsor the upkeep of the unit.

    Are their any legal eagles out there who'd know if taxation class would need to be changed from Private/HGV to HGV because of this and if an operators licence would then be required.

    Concerned about being stopped by VOSA and vehicle impounded. Motorhome is already very conspicuous because of unique shape...

    :Smile: Suggestions appreciated...
     
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    Not sure of the taxation question but you only need an operation licence if your carring goods.

    David
     
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    I think Mr HMRC will want his part of the income....:Angry:
     
  4. scotjimland

    scotjimland Funster Life Member

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    It's only advertising , I don't see why that would affect taxation class ..however..

    some sites ( notably the CClub ) have a rule that bars 'sign written' vehicles..
     
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    I don't know.

    Why not ask VOSA?

    You will need to declare the income though including the servicing costs that the sponsor would pay as a bebefit in kind or something like that. Dont know much about tax though.
     
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    agree with ScotJimland and its not just the cc sites that ban signwritten vans and commercial vehicles.

    Here are some other questions that may need answering - dont know whether you have considered these

    Would it be regarded as a commercial vehicle technically it would be advertising a business therefore technically a business vehicle????

    What would you answer on is the vehicle used for business purposes???? Should the answer be yes???

    When going abroad would the advertising attract HM Customs and Excise and make you more liability to the vehicle being thoroughly searched????

    May be more hassle than its worth???

    Apologies if it seems I am putting a damper on what seems to be a good business deal for you, but better us funsters bring up questions than you have it all done and end up not being able to use it where and when you want to xxxxxx
     
  7. bigfoot

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    Many years ago there was a scheme that adverts could be put on specific cars. My chum had a new original mini and it carried an advert for Durex on the small family car!
    Nowadays taxis have ads. How many of you have the number plates with the name of the supplying garage on them or a rear window sticker with a firm on it?
    The CC banning sign written vehicles is one vestige of the old style club when it was expected to have a bowl of fruit in the van window,even when nobody's sick! or dressing for dinner!
     
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  8. Johns_Cross_Motorhomes

    Johns_Cross_Motorhomes Trader - Motorhome & Accessory Sales

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    All my hire vans are signwritten on the bonnets and we have no problems.

    Peter
     
  9. keith

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    Only if you pay income tax, us pensioners with our higher tax allowance try not to. :Rofl1:
     
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    The vehicle will be classed as a business vehicle if you are earning from it. It will have to have business insurance or use for business on the policy.

    I will assume you will be hiring via a management company - the same laws apply either way - but makes it easier to explain.

    If you are going to sub hire via a company that wants their name on your vehicle, you will need to ensure the vehicle is properly insured by them whilst on hire (or being used if not hired)

    Your own insurance company need to be made aware of the arrangement and sgree to it - adding business use to the policy.

    You will need to register as self employed for this second income, and fill in a tax return. Treat yourself as a business, sub letting to another business and you will have your rear end covered.
     
  11. Bugbox

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    Thanks Funsters,

    Gives a lot to think about...
    Will be in touch with VOSA and DVLC for opinion and get answer in writing in case of dispute.
    :thumb:
     
  12. mpdcymru

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    Don't expect too much from VOSA (now DVSA - Driving & Vehicle Standards Agency by the way) or DVLA. I guarantee their last line will be "The above is only an opinion, ultimately only the courts can decide."
     
  13. old-mo

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    First thing that springs to my mind is depreciation when you come to sell..

    The sun will soon fade any of the body parts that are not wrapped/Sign written... :blush:

    I expect your insurance will go up, as you will have to declare what you have done, and it will not be classed as standard..:Smile:
     
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