Gas Problems

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  1. K8inspain

    K8inspain Read Only Funster

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    Hi, Have looked for info on our problems on forums but nothing seems to cover it. We have just put a new gas bottle on, having run out completely. We can't get any gas through now. Any idea what the problem is? Is it just the cold? Or is the fact that we have a two bottle system and only one bottle attached at the moment? (problems with supply locally!) Apparently its calor gas. (As you can tell, I don't do gas and hubby doesn't do computers! Oh joy!!)
    Trying to leave the heating on low overnight when not sleeping in van, to stop any probs.
    Thanks for any help you may have
    Kate (in Midlands not Spain!)
     
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    scotjimland Funster Life Member

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    Hi Kate

    is the bottle blue ( butane ) or red (propane ) ?

    if blue then it's too cold for it, change to red for winter use , you will also need a propane regulator ..

    jim
     
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    Long time ago I remember having this problem and when I took the cylinder back the old guy immediately said "Overfilled".

    He took it outside, opened the valve and liquid came out. The liquid cannot pass through the regulator.

    So, WITH GREAT CARE, take the cylinder away from everywhere and open the valve for a quick blast, if liquid comes out do it a bit more. WARNING this is a bit scary.

    By disconnecting the regulator any liquid in it should boil off.
     
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    A friend has a narrow boat and he tells me he can only get gas when both bottles are connected and opened.

    I haven't seen his system but he is an excellent mechanic and I would not query him on such matter. Can you borrow another bottle to see if that is the problem?

    Regards, Derek and Wee [​IMG]
     
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    if its the blue bottle the temprature is too cold for it to 'gas' (boil) properly blue bottles have problems anywhere below 5+c. as posted you need to swop to red bottles and get the relevent regulator or pigtails if you have a bulkhead mounted system with twin feed your reg should be the one for using either butane or propane and you just need to swop the pigtails(the pipes comming from the mounted regulator). the reason you have to swop the pigtails is that the thread is different. I use propane (red) bottles all year round.
    Also if you have only the one bottle connected make sure the feed switch is to that bottle and not the empty/disconnected one.
     
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    Can,t understand the 2 bottle theory, my Autotrail is a 2 bottle system but works with just one connected. A small cafe I sold recently had 2 large gas bottles connected out side and also worked with only one turned on or connected.
    I have had the overfill problem, just pressed a biro into the valve to release the extra gas (liquid, cold wear a glove) and it cured the problem .:Smile:
     
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    Just seen your problem, as its a new van has it got the Secure Motion regulator fitted.

    If the pressure is released from these there is a green button on the regulator that needs to be pressed in for about 5 seconds after turning on the gas. I know it caught me out first time.
    There is also a valve on top of both bottles this also has a green push button on each, and these also have to be pressed prior to the one on the regulator.

    Dave :thumb::thumb:
     
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    funny you should mention that Jim,

    just been out to the garage to get the calor heater and BUTANE bottle.....now, its around -2 deg out there and the garage is an all steel affair so not really warmer inside.

    thought id have to wait an age for the butane to warm up but it fired up on the second click of the ignitor.

    first time we've had a WARM kitchen for ages....
     
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    Thanks to all who took the time to post info, which I duly read out to the Kommandant. We managed to get the gas going, altho not entirely sure how! Had not probs since - touch wood! Hoping to be out in it Boxing Day (night!) so fingers crossed.
    Happy Holidays:Smile:
     
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