Experts?

Discussion in 'Motorhome Chat' started by Jim, Nov 13, 2007.

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Should we have an "Ask the Experts" forum?

  1. Yes

    18 vote(s)
    54.5%
  2. No

    15 vote(s)
    45.5%
  1. Jim

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    Some may recall that I was thinking about organising an Ask the Expert Forum.

    Input that I have received from the membership since then has broadly fallen into two camps.

    Camp A think its a great idea, and that we would benefit from having industry experts on the forum to answer all our questions.

    Camp B think that an experts presence might make others reluctant to post, or to delay posting and "wait for the expert" That they should be encouraged onto the forum but not given their own slot.

    Before I make a decision I thought I should put it to a vote. Please do take the time to vote. Thanks
     
  2. scotjimland

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    Provided the 'experts' have bona fide credentials, work in the sector they are representing and the answers they provide are open to scrutiny and debate I would support it, in particular I think the following topics could benefit from this..

    Insurance
    Finance
    Legal matters
    Importing
    Servicing
     
  3. johnsandywhite

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    :Cool: Having come across MANY experts in MANY fields in my life? It made me make the decision to do any jobs required myself. Within reason of course. I am not casting ANY aspersions on ANY Experts. I am sure there are many GENUINE experts out there that are VERY competent at their job?
     
  4. Mangothemadmonk

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    I put NO. The only reason being is that what happens if something goes wrong? What happens if the "expert" gives the wrong :Doh: info and this leads to a costly mistake/bill?

    Just my views as a "new-comer" to the forum.

    Johnny F
     
  5. Sweet Chariot

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    We have just had a new member join who works in Fridges etc what was one of the first posts,? a question about his broken Fridge which he answered and offered 5% discount on products, can't be a bad thing asking the expert.:thumb:
     
  6. scotjimland

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    It's a very valid point, one that I'm conscious of when replying to questions where a mistake could be either costly or dangerous, this is where several replies and consensus of opinion is needed, in saying that all advice must be taken as just that, advice, not the gospel.
     
  7. Road Runner

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    Look at it another way leading me to not vote.

    Doubt many know more about importing a vehicle from the US than JSW but he has no credentials on the subject.

    Then you get duncan Star Spangled.

    Confused? yep:Doh:
     
  8. Papa Smurf

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    As a non-owner (at the moment) I voted No.

    The reason is that I have a load of questions and would value several people's answers as they can often answer a question I didn't know I needed to ask! This of course, could include "experts" replies , and I personally would prefer the opinion of many rather than of one person, regardeless of their credentials. ( and in NO way am I knocking anyone now, or in the future ).

    I also would hate to think that anyone who is an "expert" in an particular field iwould be expected to answer a question, knowing that this may in all likelyhood dictate a course of action ( not legal action ) based solely on their experience.

    I value everyone's input on this forum - it's the interchange of ideas and expressions of views that allow me to form MY decisions.

    Again, may I say this is in NO way "knocking" those who have specialist knowlege in any area - part of the evaluation of answers includes a "weighting" of the input from everyone, and it would be inappropriate for someone to take what I say about Jelly Babies against someone's response to someone who happens to be the Production Manager for the Jelly Baby line at equal value!

    Sorry for the lengthy reply....
     
  9. eddievanbitz

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    I have been the MMM interchange "security correspondent" for some 12 years. Most of what little I do is to find old instructions, and put people in touch with the "Right man in the right company"

    The trouble with internet forums is who will vet the posters? There is still a thread swimming around the internet which a complete bozo misquoted me, and then used his "Own misquote" as a statement of fact, and then proceeded to demolish the "fact" as "rubbish" coming to the conclusion that I was an idiot and didn't know what I was talking about. (that may be the case, but surely that is for me to prove :Laughing: by my own actions and statements)

    I will always try and help anyone that emails me, about any security matter, if I can, and always have done, but think the idea of discussing someone’s security problems on an open forum would be a bad idea anyway.

    So, I think that ask the experts is a good idea....unworkable

    Just my opinion

    Eddie

    ps A case in point. There is a member here at the moment who has a problem with his alarm. My company did not install the alarm, but it is a Strikeback. I have swopped four or five emails with the guy and we will get to the bottom of his problem. This sort of information, about a specific vehicle should not be on a public forum
     
  10. olley

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    Hi sounds like in general "experts" would be sticking their necks out, advise someone, they do it, any problems and you get lambasted as an idiot.

    No collective response is best, then we can all share in the blame. :BigGrin:

    Olley
     
  11. TinaGlenn

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    I voted no, the reason being, I work in an environment where people call us asking for help and advice, and unless the person asking the question is very specific or clear in what they say, misunderstandings can occur, a wrong diagnosis of the actual fault/problem made, and the wrong information may be given in answer. This can lead to wrong parts being ordered or incorrect action being taken which can aggrivate the situation and prove costly.

    In an open forum with many people reading the original question, there will often be many differing answers, the originator will then have more information to help resolve things.
    There are members of MHFUN who have little bits of expertise on many subjects through experience as well as their jobs, and whose answers could be just as good as someone with company connections.

    just my thoughts

    Tina
     
  12. Supertractorman

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    My vote was a No, because I feel some people who have resolved a problem in their own way , may not be prepared to go into print for fear of being "shot down" by an "EXPERT".:Sad:
     
  13. GeorgeTelford

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    Hi Fordson, all

    If you post on a forum your should expect peer review, I expect it and know that any mistake that I make is going to be seized upon and that is a GOOD thing, If I ever disagree with anyone elses post, I post verifiable evidence of why it is wrong.....

    Thats the whole point of forum's, If an expert or I do not have the evidence to support his/her/my post then it is good thing to be put right, it benefits the expert and anyone reading the post.........
     
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    Hi George, I agree with you entirely.

    However, You, for example, put well balance reasoned arguements forward. To refer to a recent post you quoted for example, the latest legislation on the mobility act, and VAT status.

    You posted, complete with a link to the information source. But: The information that you posted, contradicted what some individuals had planned, and purchases that have already been made. You seemed to be subjected to a triade if personal abuse and illogical arguement.

    Worse people were stating their personal situation, which whilst tragic, had no bearing on the law, and because you were suggesting that some cases fell out of a qualifying vehicle you became the whipping boy, for explaining the Governments position.

    That is the danger as I see it. Open forum where anyone can pitch in, look at the facts, ignore the flaming and the hysteria and make a balanced overall view.
     
  15. sammclouis

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    i voted yes.....i think its a great idea..especially if links are posted to support the experts advice...i'd love somebody to give an expert opinion of any probs i may have & if backed up with evidence well im sure it'll save members £'s,,,bring it on...sammx :thumb:
     
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    :Cool: Sounds good to me. :Wink:
     
  17. Sundowners

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    Hi
    I voted yes, but after reading others comments, I realise that it's not so clear. Any "expert" must be prepared to be challenged following anothers experience, so the problem should be open to anyone that feels they may have some input to help solve a problem-------------.So maybe there is no point in asking an expert in the first place!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Nigel
     
  18. eddievanbitz

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    An expert, a legend, a star, being gifted and very talented: These are all phrases that you should use when refering to other people. Start believing your own "publicity" and youv'e had it, in my opinion.

    Was it Oscar Wilde who stated that

    "I would not want to belong to any club that would have me as a member"

    Good advice
     
  19. Papa Smurf

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    Groucho Marx.

    Bugger. Not the QWIZ :(
     
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  20. eddievanbitz

    eddievanbitz Trader - Funster

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    I stand corrected:Blush:

    Thank you, By the way, what colour do smurfs go when the get very cold? :Smile:
     
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