Europe first time. Best books/cards

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  1. Fragle

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    Hi all. After 20 years carananing next year will be the first time to Europe (France/Belgium) with a motorhome and as we no longer wish to book sites in advance and use more aires what books or cards are essential for moving around and still being able to find somewhere to sleep
    We have Tom tom sat nav and just sorted motorhome wifi with help from Addie but as there are so many books I would like time to build a library. So just for starters what would be best?
     
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    The only book we use is Camperstop and download the tomtom POI. Used across EU no problems. Think the 2015 version is due out soon.

    http://camperstop.com/en/
     
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    All the Aires France from Vicarious Books is very useful, but best to wait a couple of weeks and get the fifth edition which is due out soon. Also, we bought the optional map which is great for planning your route.

    Have fun.

    Paul
     
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    I'd also go with Aires book or download if that's possible.
    ACSI book and card gives you some cheap sites if you maybe wanted to stay somewhere with a pool, or in a particular location.
     
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  5. Jaws

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    We use this one mainly nowadays..

    https://www.vicarious-shop.com/Bord-Atlas-2014-German-Stellplatze-guide.html

    It does all of Europe but mainly Germany.. and is in German ..

    All the Aires for France but I have more or less given up with that.. I know it is all luck but every single time we have tried to use it we have found the aires either closed or more often just a tip or bit of a car park ( as I say, all luck of course and many folk get good use from it )
     
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    Never had a problem with French Aires...BUSBY
     
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    Camperstop Europe is a great reference book. Also, our principal source of aires for France and Belgium (and most of Europe to be honest) is Camping Car Infos. A great site and you can download POI files for each country (link alongside each country in the directory page).
    http://www.campingcar-infos.com/index1.htm
     
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    Last year was our first in France and used all the Aires, found it very good. First site, was a shock as we found it had closed, but that was the only one. We thought at first we had planned things wrong as tried to gently move through france and use the Aires just by sticking pin in map, decided after day two to target a start point (in our case the Atlantic coast) and work our way through that area, and then after listening to others gently work our way back.

    When you look in the Aires book and see car parks in the centre of a town, don't be put off, not like UK parks, more like areas in a village that are normally quite decent and reasonably safe. As others will tell you, do not stop overnight on motorway Aires, not safe.
     
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    As I said.. its luck... I also said many folks get get use from it.. should I lie or say nothing ??
     
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    Oh, and nowadays we ONLY stop on motorway aires when travelling to a destination in with all the lorries.. been doing that for the past 5 years without a single issue.. Again quite possibly just luck .. who knows :)
     
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    Only place we have had bother was Motorway Aire in Spain. Mind you that was car and caravan. They broke into the car whilst we slept in caravan. Do not worry in motorhome as doors are all bolted inside and i would hear them well before they gained access. BUSBY:)
     
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    Thanks. I've a few ideas of where to go having covered most of france with the caravan. But that was easy cause you had your holiday mostly in one place pre planned. This hopefully will be more freedom and fun
     
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    Did the alarm not go off on the car?????
     
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    What alarm? would not have done any good,,,i heard the noise when they broke in but by the time i jumped out of bed they were gone. Only pinched one of those C.D. players that plugged into a cassette player. The broken window was the inconvenience ...That was back in 2004.. BUSBY.
     
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    I dunno Jaws, you have no luck with anything camping-wise, do you?

    You've fallen out with the CC because you found the site wardens to be 'little Hitlers' (we've been members since 1971 and never met one of same), you had your bikes stolen whilst on a campsite (we've been camping since 1969 and never had anything nicked whilst doing so) and you've had bad luck choosing aires - we've been using em since 2009 have visited 100s and only wouldn't stay on one we went to last year since it was a dump - all the others have been perfectly fine - some better than others, they are all different and that's part of the appeal. Oh two that we visited last year, the other one was full of gyppos and you couldn't even get to the borne.

    There's always a Plan B wherever we go - or don't you enjoy Plan Bs? We do!
     
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    I stop anywhere !:D
     
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    Hi Fragle, I use camperstop for Belgium, Holland etc , but for France I use http://www.motorhomingfrance.co.uk/
    Great site all in english covers about 1600 aires & a couple hundred campsites good personal reviews loads of photo's and good GPS, also they do a memory stick for £ 15 which you can use when away ( gives all of the site info) handy if dont have wifi / mifi.

    I always check out gps on google earth ( little yellow man) when doing my reseach.

    quick sample of info
    Aires: GAVRES(3) (the 3 like a star system)

    ADDRESS: RTE DU POLYGONE, D158

    TEL:[​IMG]02 97 82 46 55 FAX: 02 97 82 13 89

    EMAIL:

    TYPE OF AIRE: MUNICIPAL
    FACILITIES: WATER /GREY DRAIN/BLACK DRAIN

    LOCATION: SEMI-RURAL NO. OF SPACES: 20


    PRICES/ RATES:

    PARKING: FREE SERVICES: 2€ WATER

    OPENING TIMES: ALL YEAR

    GPS COORDS: N47.69605 W03.34769

    DIRECTIONS: From PLOUHINEC take D158 WEST to GAVRES. As you enter village, AIRE is on LEFT just before BVD DE L'OCEAN on LEFT.

    SITE DESCRIPTION The aire at Gavres is situated on the eastern edge, at the entrance to the village & next to the D158 from Plouhinec. The aire is in a medium size grass area, between the road & the beach, about 350m from the village centre, parking is on grass with little shade. AireServices borne with a drainage platform. The small village (pop 900) is almost an island being connected to the mainland by a narrow causeway & was a busy sardine fishing port in the 1950's.





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    I also use Le Guide Officiel Camping Caravaning, Amazon always have it. It lists over 10,000 sites in France, more importantly it has the Municiple sites in it. Archies POI's are brilliant for TomTom because of the Municiple sites.

    I would never sleep on a motorway aire again. Was broken into while we all slept in our caravan, they even took the watch off my wrist! Before anyway says anything no I don't know if we were gassed and we had parked on a busy aire under bright lights on the A1 back in 2003.
     
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    If you have an android device , look in the play store for an aires app, and get the one with a green icon with a camping car on it , maybe a bit vague but it doesn't seem to have a name other than france aires, not sure if it's 99p or £1.99 but it is fantastic , you just clik k on the icon and it tells you all the aires around you , closest first , we found some marvelous aires with it last year that weren't in the books we have got.
     
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    LOL !!
    It was only the saddles that got nicked, the reason we fell out with CC was not the wardens but the constant ( up to 10 a day spam mails they sent and even THEY could not figure out what on earth was going on ! ), yes, we do not seem to have a lot of luck with aires but given the amount of folk who use them I really do appreciate it is US ( me ? ) who has bad luck and in general they are a great thing..

    On the up side we have travelled all over Europe, had the best holidays, met the best people, and in general had a really wonderful time motor homing ..
    And the traders we have met and dealt with.. I would say more than 90% of them over the years have given us great service.. and that includes all the suppliers of all the vans we have had.. Given the amount of issues we see on here that has got to be absolutely brilliant good luck !!

    And for all the issues we have had with aires, we have had wonderful experiences with Stellpltz and what ever the Italian version is called :)

    As for plan B's.. Given the amount of fails we getg with plan A's we now go straight to plan b to save mucking around !
     
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