I have had a wierd starting problem with my Fiat engine for a while.after going through the immobiliser off and ready to start sequence ,I turn the key and all ignition lights are on, further turning of key to start position,and nothing happens, all ignition lights on,This only happened in very cold conditions and I used to think it was a frozen relay or something as I could never find any faults and after a few tries I usually got started, [ I used to think that the current passing through the what I thought was a frozen relay warmed it enough to allow normal operation ] Any way I was stopped in a traffic jam on the M25 recently and stopped the engine for about half an hour and when the traffic started to move I could not restart the engine the old problem was back , but now it was a lovely hot day so my frozen theory was out of the window .I had to call the RAC out and when the patrol arrived I told him the problem and demonstrated what to do and Hey Presto the bloody thing started, RED FACE.:shout::shout:. The RAC man suggested a faulty ignition switch and said to get it checked out. I read in the M M M a little later that it could be a possible bad earth on the gear box earth strap as several people had had the same occasional fault and as I was having an MOT done a few days later I asked the MOT man to check the Earth strap for me, this he did and said he was able to get two turns on the bolt of the earth clamp ,so I hope this has solved this problem for me , a simple Bad Earth problem, we shall see.:thumb::thumb::thumb: