Electric bikes and AS Bikes in particular

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  1. rosalan

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    I think I have read all or most of the threads on here regarding having a throttle control and I am still uncertain about the actual European law regarding them.
    If they are legal in any one part of the EEC, does that cover Spain?
    If I drill a hole in the throttle to disarm it, does that make it legal in Spain?
    I realise that the fine in Spain is around €900 for ... for what? Riding it, using the throttle, not having the bit of paper etc.
    I have met up with other E-Bikers from both Germany and the Netherlands who have electric bikes with throttles, so the UK is not alone.
    Finally, with my drivers licence I can drive a 50cc moped around much of Europe (and Spain) at speeds up to 50mph and be legal and have a throttle but not be legal at 15mph using a battery with a throttle; balmy!
    Alan
     
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  2. Lenny HB

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    No to make it legal you need a certificate of conformity from the manufacture stating it complies to the reavant EN standards.
    No different with an e- bike with throttle perfectly legal providing it is registered, taxed & insured.
     
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  3. Dave and Ginny

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    Everything you have read concerning the Confirmatory Certificate and NOT having a throttle is correct but they are everywhere down here in Benidorm especially including dozens of scooter type things with no pedels. The police take no notice, of us at least, and I think the chances of just getting pulled over are very remote (waiting for first funster to tell us).

    The problem occurs though, I suspect, if you were to be involved in some incedent on the road or cycle path where the police turned up or claims were likely.
     
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  4. icantremember

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    The following copied from asbikes.co.uk web site is clear .........

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    Please note: due to massive precedented demand and heavy sales we are now out of stock of the MK3 electrobike. This has happened due to the new law coming into act on the 1st of January 2016 after which we can no longer sell a bike with a throttle/twistgrip. We will have new stock around February, if you want a bike with a throttle you must order and pay for it before the 20th of December. We will then supply a throttle abled bike to you as soon as we have them back in stock. We still have demonstrator bikes for you to come and try before you place your order. Our phone number is 02476303228 if you wish to place an order.

    Due to laws changing january 1st 2016 we will no longer be able to sell electric bikes that use a throttle 'twist and go', please buy before then to avoid disapointment. (If you already own a throttle it will be legal to use if you have brought it before january 2016).
     
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  5. Judge Mental

    Judge Mental Funster Deceased RIP

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    Or better still buy a bosch powered totally legal e bike...they are in a different league and will climb any hill...
     
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  6. Don Quixote

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    Be very careful when buying the bike as many do not climb very well and run out of power within a few km/miles.
    I tried ( was loaned bikes ) about 9 different makes and would have bought a Bosch powered model, but could not find a local dealer and in the end bought a Spanish model because it was local to us.
    Some I tried ( used same course for each bike ) started of well and then after the hill climb which was not steep but over 4km, some bikes could not take it, others the battery did not have enough power to get me home ( total distance of test route 25km ). Both the Bosch and the one I bought completed the test and like for like I could not decide.
    If you never going to ride the eBike on anything but flat ground then buy of the shelf, but if your going to use it on any hills in and out of a camp site please test ride first to avoid being disappointed the first time you run out of power miles/km from home...........
    Our last ride out we covered a 86km/54miles distance and still have power in battery when we got home.

    I cannot thank @Judgemental for his knowledge and help before buying ours.
     
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  7. Dave and Ginny

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    I sure he must have shares in Bosch!

    As I get nearer to my first ebike I'm sure it will be Eddie that I will have to thank for emptying my bank account :xdoh:.
     
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  8. Judge Mental

    Judge Mental Funster Deceased RIP

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    You can buy a 2015 one for around £800 at this time of year with new 2016 bikes coming out...
     
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  9. Littlewheels

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    We have two Ebikes with the Throttle option and have had no problems.

    I believe them to be far superior with the throttle it's quite brilliant if used correctly.

    I also believe the Throttle versions will be much sought after when they are no longer available new,therefore,it's a win win situation.
     
  10. Puddleduck

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    But you can't register them! Being under 15.5 mph there is no mechanism for doing so - I tried!
     
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  11. Judge Mental

    Judge Mental Funster Deceased RIP

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    Nonsense!:) Try on some proper hills..you will be lucky to get half way up!
     
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  12. Puddleduck

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    This is an argument that will run and run.......

    I think a lot depends on your riding style and general fitness - as well as personal preference and budget!

    It is very hilly round here and my AS bike copes well - but you do need to know how to use the assist to get the most out of it.
     
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  13. funflair

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    Are they dangerous if not used correctly?

    Martin
     
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    All his fault I've got a big hole in my wallet.:xrofl:
     
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  15. Squeezy

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    What did you buy in the end?
     
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    Because to them it's an unregistered uninsured motorbike. It would be just the same in the UK if you fitted a 300W motor.
     
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  17. Branston1080

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    I've just bought a Scott E-aspect 720 cx, yes it was very expensive (used my performance management bonus, complete decadent treat!). I have to say it is fantastic, as a pedelec you get the benefit of having to pedal. The Bosch motor is super smooth, the power assist is amazing.
    I know I'll have many years of happy cycling, it's robust, well built and has more than met my expectations.
    As many will tell you, what do you get from a great ebike.....A massive smile on your face!
    @Judgemental he knows his bikes, I read all the threads, went and tried a number of different ones. I have had a large step through, throttle only and it just wasn't for me but each to their own.
    My advice would be go and try before you buy, they all offer something slightly different and it is entirely personal choice. But I bet you have a huge smile on your face then you comfortably power up your first hill!!
     
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    Could be. Imagine twisting the throttle by accident and having it take off. People tend to grip harder when surprised (rather than leave go) so could lose control of the bike which could lead to injury for the rider or anyone in the way.

    And since you can't register it in the UK you are snookered.
     
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    Both fit in garage area of MH weight is 22kg and 21kg. We charge them from inverter whilst driving or using solar power if parked up for days and are fully charged in about 4 hours ( draws about 7/8amps per hour for both.
    The wife has:

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    Mine below: ( has larger battery fitted )
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    Company is Spanish and recommended world wide. They are local for us and warranty is very good. Web site: http://www.bhbikes.com/
     
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  20. Lenny HB

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    Unbelievable considering the DVLA website tells you that you need to register them.
     
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