Draining Motorhomes

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  1. Hickup

    Hickup Read Only Funster

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    whilst I always drain my motorhomes there will always be water in the systems.

    This year though in the Midlands it hasnt been especially cold, going into the motorhome today I noticed that the taps and more importantly the pump was frozen solid. Insulating cab curtains were on the vehicle and this might well relate to the Chausson not being as well insulated as others.

    Just make sure that if you do go to your motorhome that the pump is not frozen up if you hit the pump switch

    Tony
     
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    My method of draining the pump is to remove the suction pipe from the tank and blow through it while the pump is running with the taps and the heater drain open.

    Doug...
     
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    With no heating on, no insulation in the world is going to keep out the cold indefinitely!

    I am surprised you are so quick to doubt the level of insulation offered by your Chausson! In comparison to our Elddis we owned, our Chausson is really snug!:BigGrin:

    Thanks for the warning though!:thumb:
    A burnt out pump motor or split pump casing are often the effect of freezing!:cry:

    We leave our heating in frost protection mode if leaving it stood up undrained for short periods at this time of year.:Smile:
     
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    split casing yes, burnt out motor...unlikely as the fuse will blow :thumb:
     
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    We have an Elddis which is parked at our home. I have the electrics plugged in and have left the heating on very low, hopefully enough to prevent any freezing. The water is also drained down.
     
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    I`ve just been in mine and it is frozen, so have drained the tank and left the heater on wait and see now:Sad::Sad::Sad::Sad:
     
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    We use a small oil filled rad on a low setting just to keep the van above freezing point.......its worked well for the last ten years.
    Gary
     
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    It's all there, used for 10 years.

    Just because one person in here had one fail it's unreasonable to condem the millions out there giving good service day in day out. We know nothing of the history of the one that failed to say that there is a real cause for concern.
     
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    One person here.. 25,000 in the States.

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    and it can't fail in the 11th year ? .. and in the event of a fire... how would the insurance people look at it ?

    IMO it's safer to drain down than to run an oil filled heater unattended.. but if you must, it's much safer to use a green house type (not oil filled) tubular heater

    forewarned is forearmed .... it's up to the individual to decide.
     
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    There is an item on the market that purges your water system using air via a footpump or ccompressor. The air would blow all of the water from your system leaving it safe.
    Now there will be a few enterprising individuals on here, who cpould quite easily knock up their own way of blowing air through the water inlet hole to force the water out, some may do it using an adapted water inlet cap, some may just go to a garage, put the airline in the hole, seal it with soem rag, and let the airline gently blow the rest of the water out.
    Me.........I,m going to get one of those drain clearers that you can buy for about a fiver, its like an accordion with a trigger, you put the plunger part over the sink hole and push, and the air stored in the "accordion" bit, clear yur drain....or empties your water system.:BigGrin:

    As for ANY type of heating system NOT fitted into the van,..it will probably say soemwhere in the small print "Not to be left unnattended".
     
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    Winterising

    I have a 6 metres Mirage and every winter I disconnect the habitation battery and hook up to my home's 220 volt. I then place 3 x 40 watt tubular heaters spead over the length of the van and coonect to the 220 volt socket. Open all lockers and turn off water heater & fridge. I've not had a problem yet in about 12 years - and it costs 120 watts of electricity - peanuts!
     
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    Why 11 ? Why at all ?

    The insurers would look at it as a claim. We pay good money to cover the unexpected. Do you know of any get-out clause if a heater burns down your house or motorhome ?

    You quote 25000 per year estimate for the USA. I hope you did not waste too much of your precious remaining lifetime searching for that. The USA is a big place, the millions in use there must make this a very small fraction and when you consider the deprived areas of the USA many appliances must be in a poor condition and of unknown age and condition.

    Basically I'm saying that one nasty indecent reported here does not mean that folk in here need to lose sleep over their heaters or turn them off and risk the almost certain risk of freezing.
     
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    Not off the top of my head .. best advice is to ask your insurer before assuming.. we all know what three words make up 'assume'

    Let's hope we don't have a test case.. as most know, insurers are very good at finding 'get out' clauses .. in the event of one (any portable heater) burning your van to a cinder, they may well say it was an unauthorised modification.. best to ask.
     
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    Sound advice.

    Safeguard closed right now but I've asked for clarification by email.
     
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    Holy crap, I did not expect this.....
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    In response to your query I can confirm that we would not cover any damage caused by a heater left in the vehicle when not in use.
    If you would like to discuss this or any other matter further then please don't hesitate to contact me on either of the numbers below.
    Kind regards
    James

    James O'Leary
    Safeguard Service Team Leader
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    I didn't think for a second that you'd be covered when leaving a heater operating in a van.

    As for draining down, I never do anything special.

    Make sure all tanks, heater and filters are empty; leave taps open.

    Last December the temp did not go over -5 in the day sometimes dropping to -20 at night. No damage to water system all, Some wood did not like the cold but otherwise OK
     
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    I don't know why. Compare the risk of a heater running to driving to southern Italy or southern Morocco, there just isn't any comparison.

    Every year hundreds of MHs will suffer accident damage, I don't recall any going up in flames due to electric heaters.
     
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    I don't know why Brian, but its just one of those things whereby you know the answer before you ask. I bet every insurer we ask would respond similarly. they are not going to look at it logically, only as a get-out.
     
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