Chipping a 2 ltr fiat JTD

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  1. joggerman

    joggerman Read Only Funster

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    Many of the motorhomes I am considering have a 2.0 ltr JTD engine.
    This is considered by many to be underpowered and giving poor consumption.

    Any opinions on whether chipping/re-mapping these engines removes these issues?
     
  2. hilldweller

    hilldweller Funster Life Member

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    Works a treat.

    Guy came from Middlewich came and chipped ours for about £200. Went from struggling up hills to wheelspin in 3rd on wet corners. But only 25 mph which I am sure is mainly due to the Luton bed.

    I have no idea how people get 30+ in theirs lugging 3 or 4 tonnes around. But that's what some claim.
     
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    25 MPH :Eeek: My Mum would like it though!:Wink:
     
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    hilldweller Funster Life Member

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    Oops.

    Mind you, only 60/65 to achieve 25mpg.

    But what the hell, holiday mode.
     
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    hi,
    we had a fiat 2.0ltr common rail diesel in september 2002, we went away to spain 2 weeks after purchasing it, with it being new, the engine was tight, but it was so underpowered we had trucks flashing their lights at me to get out of the way, and i was flat out. when we got home i had it remapped at a local garage that dealt mainly with autosport cars, the difference was unbelievable, it went up hills in 5th gear that before the remapping would struggle in 3rd gear. the fuel consumtion increased from 19 to the gallon up to 22 to the gallon, bearing in mind there was only 3000 miles on the clock. when we sold it 3 years later with 12000 on the clock it was doing 25 to the gallon, it didn't matter if i drove hard or economically it always returned 25 to the gallon. in my opinion it was well worth the £200 i paid for the remapping.
    i hope this helps
    russ.
     
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    "A Guy from Middle Witch"... did he wave his wand, or is our mountain man forgetting witches are gals - the male of the species is a warlock.

    (PS love the glider - are you instructing?)
     
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    Its actually a Dodgem:Eeek:
    The pole up to the wire netted ceiling is just out of shot:BigGrin:
     
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    derekfaeberwick Read Only Funster

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    Ahhh! I can see that now, I'd always wondered why he was in a pram but thought it would

    be a bit unkind to ask. :Rofl1:
     
  9. hilldweller

    hilldweller Funster Life Member

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    Ha Ha.

    Instructing no way - not all ancient pilots are instructors. Not obvious but that's got only one seat.

    Everyone should try a glider winch launch, especially motor enthusiasts. 0..60 in about 3 seconds and then what feels like straight up. Awesome.
     

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    Remapping your 2.0 litre engine will gain you 30 bhp and around 70nm of torque, its the torque improvement that makes the difference on these heavy vehicles. You will be able to hold higher gears for longer without downchanging, the drive will also be a lot more relaxed. Once people have a car/van chipped/remapped they find everything they drive afterwards is flat, and tend to get all of their vehicles done:thumb:
     
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    Had mine done by the same guy in Middlewich ( i think i recommended him) worked a treat on my old van. Superb performance. :thumb:
     
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    remapping

    Forgive the ignorance chaps but what is chipping / remapping preferably in words of one silyble

    TAN:Blush:
     
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    Basically it is modifying you vans existing ECU software to improve performance. Older vehicles had write once chips(Chipping), newer vehicles have rewriteable chips or have proccessors(Remapping) The software can be changed via the diagnostic socket on the vehicle without lifting the bonnet.

    HTH

    Gary
     
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    hi. i have been looking at chiping my renault master.check out my diesel box web site.£140 with 90days money back no quibble guarantee.hope this is of help.johnm
     
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    Just looked him up.

    Jason Copeland www.more-bhp.com
     
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    Does remapping alter the insurance on the motorhome. Is it one of the things you would have to tell them about when asking for a quote?
     
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    I did. Many years ago I took my first winch launched ride in a TS2 - the cable broke as we were pulling back hard against the winch. - Insufficient height, had to put down emergency style.

    BTW I have a 6m LP MH on a 2.2 Hdi I rarely go over 60mph and get 30 mpg, Should I consider chipping? :thumb:
     
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    Only you can tell, does it struggle up hills ?

    If not leave well alone.
     
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    Hi,

    You should tell them, Safeguard noted it but no extra charge, Saga accepted it but charged me about £25/30 extra, albeit Saga were still cheaper overall.



     
  20. imprint

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    Mountain Man and tco - completely agree, my first launch was was about 45 years ago, my main surprise was how noisy it was, even after light aircraft!

    I found helicopters the most exciting form of flying, real 3D popping up over hedges and around trees... one way of keeping one's hair short, like juggling two plates on two sticks simultaneously.

    Returning to the subject, does anyone remap or chip motorbikes? Somewhere in a barn I might be able to put my hands on an old Norton. Does anyone know anything about chipping Nortons?
     
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