Beam benders

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  1. Reallyretired

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    My MH has those little round headlights, as did my last one. With the French authorities getting stricter about these (btw have you ever seen a French vehicle use them in the UK?) has anyone any bright ideas about fitting them.

    An ordinary beam deflector as sold at the ports is bigger than the actual headlight.

    What I've done in the past is just to use the load adjustment knob on the dash board to lower the beams to the lowest position so that they are unlikely to dazzle anyone, but of course they still dip to the wrong side
     

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    Hi
    If you take the triangle off the normal beam deflector is it still too big? If so you could always gut it in to shape. Hold a bit of card board 10 inchs or so from the lights to see which way the beam goes and then mess with the circle untill the beam does not shoot in the wrong direction and then apply. If required just cut to shape.
    In my experience with the French police they are more likely to let you go if you just get it wrong but have tried as opposed to have nothing at all.
    happy touring nearly retired , from too bloody long untill retirement.
     
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    Yes.......don't bother! I bought some and after a trip of little more than 30 miles they had both dropped off. Total waste of money.

    Use black insulation tape. The amount you need will cost less than one pence per headlight and it will stay stuck on until you pull it off! Might not look pretty but it does the job.
     
  4. texastaffy

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    I have just gone through this exercise with my RV, small headlamps but they dipped to the right (left hand drive) I had them on the beam machine & tried allways to get them in compliance for MOT as I would be using rv in europe 6 months of the year.
    I eventually had to fit new headlights!!!!!!!!!!
     
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    Something I had to do too:Doh:

    Set of 4.Had a right job sourcing replacements.
     
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    If your headlights have the triangular marks which indicates the parts to blank off it's fairly easy. Some headlights I believe aren't obvious though. My Merc 410d Hymer headlamps are the orginals fitted from new in Germany. I fitted black Gaffa/Duct tape for its first UK MOT and it passed with an advisory note. Shall be doing the same again this year. Gaffa/Duct tape doesn't like the sun though and usually needs re-doing every 3 months. Haven't as yet found a better or more permanent alternative.
     
  7. peaps

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    Hi don't know if this is any help but my hymer 564 had L+R on the back with a slotted mount this adjusted from R to L dip, much easier but a pain to get at till you know where they are.When I'd done it a couple of times 5 mins while sat on the dock.
    Hope this helps

    Pete:thumb:
     
  8. vanessa

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    I second the advice about using some form of black tape - gaffa, duct or insulating. It's easy to reapply when it wears out, a roll costs next to nothing compared with the "real thing", and will stay in place better. Also dead easy to "make it fit".

    The Gendarmes will be pleased you've made the effort; if it's "not quite right" but you've tried, they'll ask you to re-do it, end-of-story. If you don't do it (and get caught), it'll be an on-the-spot fine (can't remember if it's 60 or 90 euros, but either way, an unwelcome hole in holiday money!).
     
  9. MicknPat

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    I have always been lead to believe, rightly or wrongly that the reason you NEVER see a foreign registered car in the UK with any headlight 'benders' fitted is they simply don't require them as the modern foreign cars head lights dip up and down and NOT to the left or right.
     
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    AFAIK you are right. That is also why on the RV we do not need to bother with them as they are not bent in the first place.
     
  11. madbluemad

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    Hi

    Ive been following this thread because I also need to fit some. The deflectors came with a good enough set of instructions but always made a reference to the glass patterns on the headlamps.

    My headlamps dont match any of the glass patterns shown in the instructons and so I got a head ache and put them away. :Doh: They will have to be on by Sunday.:Eeek:

    When you say that you apply duct tape or insulation tape are you saying that you apply this directley on to the head lamp to stop the beam from shining to the left.:Blush:

    If this is what your doing doesn't this severley reduce the effeciencey of the headlamps.:Eek!:

    Cheers

    Jim :cry:
     
  12. texastaffy

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    As I posted earlier, we have the small headlamps with no markings. I put in on the beam machine to try & find out where to fit the benders/gaffer tape or whatever to be MOT compliant, I was actually there with the guy & he tried all ways to no avail so had to change lamps. I now have to worry about fitting them for France/Spain etc. but it will be just taped on for the effort really & use the fog lights when driving instead.
     
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    Thats a problem for me because I only have a rear fog lamp. If I mask off any of the head lamp I will have a problem with a decent beam through the headlamp.

    I think I'm going to put them on as best I can and thats it. The only time that I would anticipate using them is when going through tunnels cos I wont be driving at night. Phewwww

    Jim :Doh:
     
  14. vanessa

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    If you definitely won't be driving at night, do the best you can with the "benders" and forget about it. :Wink: Or, find where the beam "hits" the lens, and put a small amount of tape on that point.
     
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    I posted this link on an earlier thread re. the same subject. It may be of some help to you.
    Self Drive Camping - Headlamp Conversion Simplified

    Hopefully it may also help persuade you that taping the lens is a far better and of course cheaper solution than fitting these 'beam benders'! To answer your two questions, 1) yes you apply the tape directly to the lens, and 2) no it doesn't reduce the efficiency. You can still see where you are going!!

    Should you still be uncertain of exactly where your dip pattern is on the headlight lens, just drive into any Garage with MOT testing facilty who will show you exactly where it is.
     
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    As we have now booked our next trip I thought I better look into fitting something on our headlights as we do expect to be driving at night. I have in the past used the black insulating tape method & it does reduce the light, I have read somewhere though that this shouldn't be used on the plastic headlamp as the heat that builds up can cause the plastic to craze. The other problem is if I get beam benders (not too dear off ebay) where do I fit them as there are no markings at all on the lights, my van is on the new Renault Master.
    I was going to try to find out what is different between my van & a left hand drive model, the headlight is clear so is it just the bulb or is there some setting at the headlight that can be left or right hand. What do european vans do, dip to the right or do they just dip straight down?
     
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    Hi
    Having just drove down through france into spain in a o8 hymer I had been warned before setting off a clampdown by french police on headlights ,I decided to contact hymer uk for advice, to be told there was a lever which reset the lights for use over the water I visited them and was shown how to do it. My point is driving a right handed hymer with no sign of black tae or a beam bender no police french or spanish have bothered to take a look at our vehicle. all th best Bob.
     
  18. madbluemad

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    Hi Ed, its not the up or down thats the problem its the left or righ that matters. Currentley for uk driving your head light beam should be pointing (shining) left. When you drive on the right hand side of the road on the continent your head lamps may dazzle oncoming drivers and so you have to have them pointing (shining) to the right.

    I think it was dazzer that said place a piece of carboard in front of one of your head lamps, it should be beaming toward the left. Mask part of the light beam so that your beam is pointing to the right, then stick you beam bender or duct tape over that part of your head light that is masked to turn the beam.

    Hope this make sense. We took a guess and put them where it seemed that they should be and they were fine. I woudnt get to wound up about it.

    Cheers Jim :Smile:
     
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    while this may very well be true (i dunno) it should also apply to 'modern' UK registered cars visiting europe and it doesnt excuse the old rust buckets we see coming here from poland and eastern europe :Angry:
     
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    Thought I would contact Renault & ask if it was possible to adjust the headlights for continental use & the girl I spoke to didn't know but suggested I fit
    Renault Headlamp Converters Ref. Code: 7701383655
    To me it looks like a small bit of black plastic for almost a tenner :Eeek::Eeek:
    I will go into the local Renault dealer to see what they are & maybe where to fit them. I was under the impression though that sticking something like this onto the perspex headlamp can cause it to craze due to the build up of heat.

    Still don't see why the headlight can't be adjusted to suit, I would agree that for holidays & short trips then the benders or masks are the simplest option but we are going for 3 months.
     

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