BBQ hose length

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  1. Spade

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    Hi all.
    I want to lengthen our cadac BBQ gas flexible hose from the original 1 metre to about 6 metres so I can use the BBQ on the other side of the van.
    Any issues or regulations I should be aware of.
    Thanks
     
  2. Techno

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    Trip hazards etc. Why not pass it under the van? or have a second gas point added
     
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    Regulations say max 1 mt.. but you can buy it longer.. I've seen hoses on eBay sold any length

    From a safety point .. it can be a trip hazard.. personally I wouldn't ..

    It would be better to install another gas point.. or do as I do, use a 5kg Patio gas bottle.. it is convenient to carry , and the barbie can be used away from the mother ship..
     
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    Surely 2?
     
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    I thought 1 .. you may be correct
     
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    I am 90% certain that Cadac suggest 1.5m max.
     
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    Quote from a Calor rep on another forum

    It can depend on the type and rating of the appliance but as a rule of thumb we advise that the hose length from a BBQ point should not exceed 1.5m. This is to minimise any drop in pressure that may affect the performance of the appliance, and also minimise the risk of the hose being damaged.

    As a side issue, we always like to reiterate that appliances being used from a BBQ point should always be out in the open and not positioned inside an awning.
     
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    I cannot find any regulatory information. only guide and recommendations
     
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    I believe that the 1 / 2 metre regulation was for the High Pressure side of the system and not low pressure. Some shops will only sell 1 metre lengths because of the confusion as the hose is rated as a high pressure hose, but used for the low pressure side.
    A neighbour of mine at a canal stop used a 6 metre hose and his cadac was very poor as it seemed the hose too long to perfome effectivly as it had worked very well befor he added that length of hose.
     
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    Can't find the regulation.. only guidance..

    but you are probably correct Andy, most dealers will only sell up to a max of 2 mt.. but they can't tell you what regulation is being applied..

    I think common sense should be applied.. bearing in mind the longer the hose, the greater loss of pressure.. and the increase trip hazard.

    When I bought the hose for my Weber Q series the dealer offered 1, 2 and 3 meter hose..

    I bought 1 mt as I'm using with a bottle.. longer hose gets in the way..

    For the above reasons, I suggest 3mt should be the max length used..
     
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    I agree with the common sense angle but that must be to read the manufacturer's guidance. These days that information should be online as well as with the appliance.
     
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    Where the 2mt guidance comes from.... but doesn't mention hoses for BBQs

    https://www.calor.co.uk/media/wysiwyg/PDF/using_gas_safely_in_caravans.pdf

    Flexible Hoses

    Use only marked and certified hoses BS3212 or BSEN1763 and which bear the year and name of the manufacturer and clips as LPG attacks and erodes natural rubber. Keep hose lengths as short as possible and less than 2 meters in length. All flexible hoses must be secured with proper hose clips. Make sure that the hoses are kept clear of ‘hot spots’ and inspect them from time to time. Replace any hose that shows signs of wear or damage.

    For Touring Caravans and Motor Homes, in 2003 BS EN 1949 was introduced which requires the hose between the cylinder and regulator to be no longer than 450mm
     
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    Our local farm supply store (registered calor bulk and bottle dealer) will only sell in 2 mtr lengths....then they will happily sell connectors and crimp rings to join as many 2 meter lengths as you bought.
    Makes no sense as joints are a potential hazard point and the more joints, the more chance of a leak.
     
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    I've yet to encounter a shop that won't sell you any length you are willing to pay for or even a full coil.
     
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    I agree. The low pressure side a barely a breath
     
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    Come to Scarborough and visit BATA farm store....then you have..... (y)
     
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    No need John and I'd avoid such a pedant retailer
     
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    Aside from the regulations and the common sense, to minimise pressure drop the answer is to use larger bore hose for most of the length, with size reducer adapters secured with hose clips.

    There's a dozen ways to reduce the trip hazard, fix it to the ground with tent pegs and string, or bury it in the sand, etc.
     
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    .. I am trying to imagine a warden's face when he sees you digging up turf with the trenching spade.. :whistle:

    seriously yes.. I've done that with hook-up cable on a Spanish site.. no grass, just sand
     
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    In which countries ?
     
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