Theonlysue
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Euro 6 diesels need to use Selective Catalytic Reduction which means that AdBlu has to be used to reduce the exhaust emissions to an acceptable (Euro 6) levelI have heard a lot about ADBLUE what do you use for and why?
colyboy
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Only for diesel engines fitted to take adblue. Don't even think about putting it in any vehicle except those designed to take it.I have heard a lot about ADBLUE what do you use for and why?
colyboy
not quite the new euro6 fiat ducato achieves emissions targets WITHOUT adblue by using cats & DPF however AFAIK, the euro6 citroen Jumper & Renault ????? need adblue to reach the Euro6 emissionsEuro 6 diesels need to use Selective Catalytic Reduction which means that AdBlu has to be used to reduce the exhaust emissions to an acceptable (Euro 6) level
ah... beaten to it!The New Euro 6 Fiat Ducato engines don't run with adblue.
Mercedes, Ford, Peugeot do use it though.
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Ducato, yes........nearly all others - no. I was talking in general terms not specifically Ducato as there was no specific mention of any particular vehicle.not quite the new euro6 fiat ducato achieves emissions targets WITHOUT adblue by using cats & DPF however AFAIK, the euro6 citroen Jumper & Renault ????? need adblue to reach the Euro6 emissions
Adblue is a urea solution and has become more prevalent for diesels due to the introduction of Euro6 regs.Ducato, yes........nearly all others - no. I was talking in general terms not specifically Ducato as there was no specific mention of any particular vehicle.
This may be so on MoHo engines but certainly not the case with HGV as we run without.The big drawback is you can't (shouldn't be able to) bye it and if you run out your engine won't restart until it is replenished.
aye... i was interested to read that in your earlier post. i didn't know about that for HGV.This may be so on MoHo engines but certainly not the case with HGV as we run without.
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Yes (bear in mind I know nothing about engines but the boss does), the fuse is removed so it doesn't get any. There is no noticeable reduction in power or performance and I pull up to 44 tonnes regularly. I wouldn't try it on an engine I owned without taking specialist advice (as my boss)aye... i was interested to read that in your earlier post. i didn't know about that for HGV.
i'm certain that you can't bypass it in cars. the engine won't cut out if you run out, but it won't restart.
So can you always guarantee to use the full 10 litre at one go.I wouldn't want to decant it, as I thought it should go straight from container to engine as short shelf life.
I don't know if it's just another gimmick, but I know an aa man who gets called out due to adblue running out
Thanks for the clarification - as fuels used to be my job I do know about it. Noted that @Theonlysue has a Mercedes not a Fiat, and their Euro 6 engines definitely use adblueAdblue is a urea solution and has become more prevalent for diesels due to the introduction of Euro6 regs.
As this is a MH forum and as the fiat Ducati forms the basis for the majority of MH base vehicles, then in general terms the majority of Euro6 MH will not require Adblue.
That is why I specified the various marques.
My BMW 335xd also achieves Euro6 without Adblue so some (not sure of the proportion) car manufacturer can meet Euro6 without using Adblue as well
If / when emissions regs tighten to Euro6+/7 then it is likely all diesels will need it.
The big drawback is you can't (shouldn't be able to) bye it and if you run out your engine won't restart until it is replenished.
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you can buy an awfull lot of add blue with the fines imposed for driving in breach of Euro 6 requirmentsYes (bear in mind I know nothing about engines but the boss does), the fuse is removed so it doesn't get any. There is no noticeable reduction in power or performance and I pull up to 44 tonnes regularly. I wouldn't try it on an engine I owned without taking specialist advice (as my boss)
Not my problem.you can buy an awfull lot of add blue with the fines imposed for driving in breach of Euro 6 requirments
he may have knowledge but he dont have brains
On a bigger scale marine vessels are going through the same process but with 50,000HP engines.... some are going down the scrubber route, others are using SCR (Some Stena ferries use this - can you imagine the size of the AdBlue delivery for that?) and yet others are using alternative fuels such as LNG (Ferries in Norway and one just being delivered to Canada BC ferries for instance). Each presents their own issues and set of problems, not least that it is actually difficult to measure exhaust emissions with a 3 foot wide exhaust pipe!! I gave a paper at a conference a couple of years ago about this subject and at that time it was considered to be too difficult/expensive to retrofit scrubbers, SCR was largely untried on large scales and LNG presented huge logistical issues. fast forward and it seems the way to go is the LNG route, but only for liner/ferry trades. Most ship engine certification is by type approval as well. Not dissimilar.In simple terms we are in the VHS v BETAMAX period of emissions control
the CAT/ DPF units use different technology eg chemical coatings they are in effect totally different to both current DPFs and Cats
Adblue is a trade name of "GREENOX" the main chemical is distilled water and urea (Found in Urine) not made of it
Some systems will prevent engines starting and or running, some will simply restrict throttle use to keep you within limits this applies across the board cars vans hgv
eventually a system will be developed that is difficult to beat and easily detectable when it is
The powers that be, will eventually settle on a standard system or two/three/four
G
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I totally agree.Phew im glad my MH is before this , as it sounds like a load of crap and an extra running cost expense
Well fair comment but depends on how many MPG. Suppose it's like putting additive in every few tankfulsThe cost is negligible at £14 for 3500 miles, it's just more to remember
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