6 berths and 6 belts needed....help!!

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  1. 4boysjoppa

    4boysjoppa Read Only Funster

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    Hello all,
    We are a couple in edinburgh with 4 boys ages 2, twins at 4, and eldest aged 9, and we are hoping to buy a 6 berth motorhome to travel round france and Italy next summer.
    We tested out a swift escape 696 with rear bunks for a long weekend in may this year and we all loved it......
    Our main issue is finding a similar van that will sleep us all and has4 rear 3 point belts for the kids, at a price we can afford......
    I have looked at at some other models eg. Chausson flash and rollerteam 707 but to get ones that have three point belts for 4 kids seems to be hard...
    We are hoping( or maybe dreaming?!?!?!) of spending around £18-25,000 on the van we choose next year but I don't know if such a model and make exists at an age that we can afford........
    Any wise words to point us in the right direction would be SO much appreciated as I am getting brain-freeze from dealer websites......!
    Thanks if anyone can help at all
    Mark
     
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    Hi why not have a look at the elddis 180 its a six berth with mid dinette and rear lounge. Also think swift do one may be the 690 or something like that.

    We had an elddis for 4 years and they are similar spec to the swift escape you mention. Have a good look round I'm sure you will find one within your budget.

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    We have the same issue, 4 children with 3 under 8yrs. The first van had only 2 x 3 point belts (forward facing) and the rear facing were both lap belts that we didn't like.

    Finding a 6 belted van is hard already and one with 4 x 3 points will be very very tough, and then there's the weight.....

    We ended up with 4 x 3 point seat belts but it was difficult to find and we had to pay for it:Eek!:
     
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    I have yet to see any with 4 three point belts. Because of the regulations regarding fixing points it would be difficult to site them on seats backing onto the driver and passenger ones. I would recommend the bunk bed models any time. We have the Autoroller 707 and are very pleased with it. :BigGrin:
     
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    They are out there BUT very rare, especially on vans within your budget..
    It would have been an optional extra from the factory ordered at build..

    The Autotrail scout, apache 700, suntor 630l and other have overghead bed, dinette and rear lounge.

    However be aware of your weight, you will need a good payload for 6 people and their stuff, kids can take more than adults.. Good luck with your search...


    *** I withdraw my remark about being rare.. They seem easy to find !! *** lol
     
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    A Hymer C622 has 6 belted seats, 4 on the dinette seats and obviously the seats up front. Overhead double drop-down bed in the Luton, dinette converts to a small double, i.e.perfect if your less than 5ft 6in tall, too good sized bunks in the rear, transverse above the garage locker. We used to have one. They were around 40k new in 2007 and, I think, no longer produced after 2008. Base vehicle was a transit 2.2 litre turbo-diesel, front wheel drive and 26-30mpg depending on driving style. No idea what the current second-hand price might be. Good payload.

    Drawbacks? Dinette only seats four and front seats don't swivel on earlier models. Swivel on driver's seat on later models.

    HTH
     
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    Tonka, thanks for the help already, it's only been 20 minutes...genius!!
     
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    As gerry has already posted, the Elddis Autoquest 180 is a 6 berth model and it does have all 6 belted seats with "3-point passenger seat belts" fitted:thumb:

    We have had ours for almost 3 years and have been very happy with it.


    http://www.firstclassmotorhomes.com/6-berth-motorhome/
     
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    my CI 181 had 6 belted seats although2 rear facing were lap belts, but still a good van,
     
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    Hi silverF1, and thanks for the tip,will look one up
    Another issue...I am 6ft4........:Doh:
     
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    cant be much payload with six people 3.5tonne van
     
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    Beware the titchy water tanks in some Brit vans, notably the Elddis Autoquests!
    Also with 6 on board you will do well to consider a 3.5 tonne plus van. Are you licensed for one?
    I would recommend you look carefully at Transit-based Chaussons, Rimors, Roller Teams and Euramobils.

    Also don't be seduced by the smooth lines of some vans. You need a box on wheels to maximise interior space, especially in the overcab area!:thumb:
     
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    Could not agree with you more.
    What's the point if you're only semi-legal?


    Roll-on the Revolution!
     
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    We have a Sunlight A69, 6/7 berth with bunk beds, twin dinette and overcab. It has 6 belts although 2 rear facing are lap only.

    Transit base, twin rear wheel and 3.85 tonne and should be within your budget.

    Also sold under eurostyle name.

    Pete
     
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    Our Burstner 530 had 6 full seatbelts. For grandchildren use.

    It's probably too small for you but look at the bigger ones.

    Big problem is comfort, to get 4 rear seat belts the seats are train style. Fine for eating and travel but poor for lounging. So I removed 2 seats and remodelled ours which has been a huge success.
     
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    You would be ok in the overhead dropdown double as the bed is transverse and in either of the rear bunks.
     
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    6 belts ... 6 berth

    We have had the Bessacar 6 berth , it had u shaped lounge at the back , front dinette double bed and over the cab double bed, all usual refinements microwave , toilet with smallish shower. It has been great , just trading it in for the auto trail scout which had all the same but somewhat posher !! :thumb::thumb:
     
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