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I've often wondered just exactly 'No Overnight Parking' meant.
KH
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Surely not parking a car though?That is a step to far that may bite them in the bum
clearly from such a detailed and informative sign it can be assumed that unless its says you can't, then clearly you can! whatever it is you have in mind
Perhaps they just want considerate touristsNegative lot on Iona, why don't they just say NO Tourists!
Probably is so long as one is friendly backSounds like a friendly place to visit
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Well.... By the time you've parked gone to read the extensive list they will have done you for parking anyway as it took so long!
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Which jobs worth thought of all those things ?
Which of course you can't, but it has turned into some sort of motorhomers urban myth. Yes there are less restrictions than in England but you can't legally just park overnight anywhere.When people ask about visiting Scotland I've often suggested staying on a site for a few nights and buying local.. only to be told.. you can free camp anywhere in Scotland
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Oh no @NickNic , he won't be the cleaner sat in his office in a suit.it will be some other council worker .And I'm not condoning it for a minute , I hate to see any litter and dumping by any Scroats !( and have cleared others crap up if necessary although fag buts I leave but hate.)Maybe one who's had to clean up after some idiot that thinks they have a god given right to park wherever they like and then leave a load of mess behind when they leave.
Thanks KH that paints a much better picture, you cant beat the full story in these cases.Which of course you can't, but it has turned into some sort of motorhomers urban myth. Yes there are less restrictions than in England but you can't legally just park overnight anywhere.
BTW Iona was a very friendly place and we also did the boat trip out to Staffa and Fingal's Cave - very highly recommended.
Anyway, one picture does not tell the whole story.
There is a large and 'legal' car park about 200 yards away where you can park your motorhome. There is also a brilliant (and cheap) campsite right next to a beach with stunning views and clean white sand just about 4 miles away.
The car park subject of the 'comprehensive' sign is for the ferry, including coaches and busses, and is FREE, however obviously at some time there has been a problem with inconsiderate parking, hence the need for the sign.
KH
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It won't be any "jobsworth". The sign reflects the restrictions which exist in most car park orders and are there to protect the purpose of the car park from those who think it is there for whatever is their convenienceWell.... By the time you've parked gone to read the extensive list they will have done you for parking anyway as it took so long!
Which jobs worth thought of all those things ?
Many car parks (especially ones originally built many years ago) were not constructed for heavier vehicles - and you're right about the idiots (not only motorhomers, many height barriers are in place to stop drivers of Transits and the like who don't know the weight of their vehicles).I see that there is a 1.5 ton weight limit for the car park. Could it simply be that the car park isn't suitable for heavy vehicles and the rest of it is just for the benefit of the idiots who think such restrictions don't apply to them? That sort of moron normally needs things explaining very slowly using simple words.
Iona .. like any other place doesn't want freeloaders.
How many visit these islands by motorhome and pay not a penny into the local economy.. they want free camping, free facilities and come with a van stuffed full of food from a mainland supermarket.. Is it any wonder they are not welcome.. ?
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How many visit these islands by motorhome and pay not a penny into the local economy.. they want free camping, free facilities and come with a van stuffed full of food from a mainland supermarket.. Is it any wonder they are not welcome.. ?
Just a thought.. being a bit of a devils advocate ..........
Is Iona a self governing and financing island that has zero support from the mainland ?
If it is then the above is a fair comment..
If it is not then anyone driving a motorhome ( or indeed any vehicle ) does pay and is not free loading
We all pay considerable taxes in the form of VEL's and fuel tax.
Part of that tax is used in environmental support across the UK.. the WHOLE of the UK
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Not this ferry but one very similar on a dark and dismal night we stopped to eat a Chinese takeaway that we had purchased. We pulled onto some wasteland eat our Chinese then somehow fell asleep. We woke up to a hell of a noise someone in oilskins banging on the window demanding that we move forward onto the ferry. The place was packed with cars so on we went. Good move as we included Dunoon in our travel itinerary .and another with poor eyesight..
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a similar story.We pulled onto some wasteland eat our Chinese then somehow fell asleep
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That is perfectly correct, John, but it is a fact that many car parks are not built to take regular use by vehicles weighing more than 2 tonnes. Mostly old car parks but I can recall a couple being built only about 15 years or so ago where the limit was 2 tonnes to save the extra cost of stronger foundations.The 30cwt limit is from the original wording of the Road Traffic Act 1988 which has since been revised but many local authority regulations still refer to this limit for Motor Cars. It has nothing to do with the ability of the car park surface to take the weight of the vehicle as this is often applied to un-surfaced car parks also.
If applied by the book many larger modern cars and people carriers would be barred. However it is often only Motor Caravans that get ticketed for parking on these restricted car parks.
This is the updated wording:
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1988/52/section/185
Road Traffic Act 1988
185 Meaning of “motor vehicle” and other expressions relating to vehicles.
"motor car” means a mechanically propelled vehicle, not being a motor cycle or an invalid carriage, which is constructed itself to carry a load or passengers and the weight of which unladen—
(a)if it is constructed solely for the carriage of passengers and their effects, is adapted to carry not more than seven passengers exclusive of the driver and is fitted with tyres of such type as may be specified in regulations made by the Secretary of State, does not exceed 3050 kilograms,
Here is an anomaly from the same section
“heavy motor car” means a mechanically propelled vehicle, not being a motor car, which is constructed itself to carry a load or passengers and the weight of which unladen exceeds 2540 kilograms,
Here is an anomaly from the same section
“heavy motor car” means a mechanically propelled vehicle, not being a motor car, which is constructed itself to carry a load or passengers and the weight of which unladen exceeds 2540 kilograms,
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