chrisgreen
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try this graham,lot of results:thumb:Yes, that's the comment I meant - but where was it "widely reported"?
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try this graham,lot of results:thumb:Yes, that's the comment I meant - but where was it "widely reported"?
Many years ago I worked for a company that assisted/removed vehicles from the Severn Bridge based in the Aust Service area, along with many miles of the motorway, this company also ran the workshops at Gordano Services on the M5, so a huge area of motorway was covered. I have been on many hundreds of motorway breakdowns in the 8 years I did the job (1978-1986). At the time all motorway breakdowns were initially reported to the police via the phones next to the hard shoulder and then the police would pass on the details to the breakdown/recovery company or arrange for a local service to attend in the event that the vehicle had no breakdown insurance.did the RAC inform any of the other agency's of the hazard???
spose we will never knowoh:
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Usual reasons, falling asleep or distracted by satnav, phone, laptop, etc.
The causes of most HGV motorway incidents.:Angry:
do you do much motorway driving Graham??
iv seen lorry's,cars,vans,all wonder into the hard shoulder,on a daily basisoh:
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Long may it stay that way.NO MOTORWAYS IN NORFOLK.BUSBY.
try this graham,lot of results:thumb:
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Yes, lots of results but, as I found previously, forum posts not source material.
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are they? have you facts to prove thisI have questions about the incident and won't form an opinion with respect to the RAC until all the facts are in.
My initial questions were;
Why were the occupants still in the vehicle? Surely they should have been on the other side of the crash barrier along with their dogs?
I have read somewhere that their vehicle is over 3500KG so they needed a specialist vehicle to recover hence the 3 hour delay.
As I read it either the RAC hadn't arrived yet OR he wasn't able to recover the vehicle due to the size/weight and a specialist vehicle was being despatched. If he had arrived he may have refused to move the vehicle due to its weight. The smaller vans only have 2 seats so he may not have been able to get all three passengers off the motorway never mind finding space for 10 dog crates in his small van already packed with tools.
There is too much that is unknown about this incident to form valid conclusions.
Whilst I sympathise with these three ladies they do have to take some responsibility for their own safety. I know that sounds harsh but a lot of problems could be avoided if people took responsibility for themselves. There is no way on this earth I would stay in a vehicle that had broken down on the hard shoulder.
The problem here is that the dog owning fraternity have taken to facebook etc and are immediately blaming the RAC before the facts are in.
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are they? have you facts to prove this
as i see it is the women phoned the RAC who arrived,and refused to rescue/recover them and left without making a risk assessment and parking the RAC van behind with his emergency light's on.
but i bet the RAC come out with "lessons will be learnt from this"oh:
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The Kennel Club said it had spoken to the RAC, AA and Green Flag about their policies regarding the transportation of dogs following a breakdown.
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If the vehicle contacted the RAC direct did the RAC in turn report the breakdown to the police?
I entirely agree - but 3 hours at below freezing especially if there's a breeze and dressed in light outdoor clothing could/would be equally life-threatening.I'd rather freeze on the verge than spend one second too long on the hard shoulder. I've seen far too many drifting HGVs to think otherwise. It was one of the first things I was taught when I did school minibus driver training.
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According to the driver of vehicle following the artic he had swerved into the hard shoulder a number of times before he hit the motorhome. Looks like he was falling asleep at the wheel. No amount of cones or flashing lights would have made a difference in that case.The other point is what was the HGV driver doing on the hard shoulder, instead of lane 1, in the first place? Another thing we don't know.
Trouble with that is that this time of year you could not sit outside for three hours, without being severely compromised.But.. Dogs aside (and their death is very sad) ...
It does underline why you should not sit in your broken down vehicle on the hard shoulder..
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