Why Diesel Is Not A Dirty Word When Buying A Motorhome

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  1. Harry Price

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    With the recent news that Hamburg will be the first German city to ban older diesel engines, coupled with a flood of 'dirty diesel' media coverage over recent years, it's understandable that customers have been prompted to think cautiously about diesel when considering a new motorhome.

    But, there is an important distinction to be made between 'dirty' diesel engines and cleaner diesel engines in new motorhomes; a difference that prospective buyers can benefit from knowing.

    Older diesel engines, i.e. those that were built before the Euro 4 standard in 2005 are those considered to be the most harmful to the environment and are commonly referred to as 'dirty'.

    Conversely, new motorhomes are fitted with diesel engines that comply with the new European Commission standards of Euro 5 and Euro 6, introduced in 2009 and 2014, respectively, with the aim of reducing harmful levels of exhaust emissions from both petrol and diesel engines.

    Both Euro 5 and Euro 6 are fitted with particulate filters and Euro 6 engines have emissions control technology that converts up to 99% of combustion engine exhaust pollutants and particulates.
     
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  2. Kevinthecat

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    I don't think euro 5/6 will meet the ultra low admission zone coming into force next year in London . So anyone visiting , say, Abbey Wood will have to pay £12.50 a day to come into the low admission zone (if they move their vehicle after arriving ) . It will be at its cheapest £25 if you visit .

    Thanks for the info @HP I learnt something from your post.
     
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  3. Jands

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    Easy target.
    I do feel the biggest cause of vehicle pollution is down to road design.
    The governent should, instead of building an expensive railway to save 20 min, build new roads and improve our current ones.
    Improve the major A roads up to dual carriageway level and bypassing towns.
    Create alternatives to the motorways we have so drivers have a choice of roads.
    No hold ups, queues and congestion would allow vehicles to operate as designed at their most enviromently clean operation.
    This would cost big money so it won't happen, easier to blame vehicle drivers.
     
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  4. Bailey58

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    At least older diesels didn't go into limp mode and and be off the road for two months when a relay packs up and four garages and an auto electrician later we finally get to go away in the van. :rollingeyes:
     
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    And yet our 2004 Inca appears to be exempt from the newly proposed London Emissions Zone...
     
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    We own several diesel vehicles.

    Euro III, IV, V and VI.

    Oddly, the latter have a horrible diesel exhaust stench. Yet the well cared for Euro III, you know its a diesel, but no foul stench. I guess you cannot smell the bad stuff.
     
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    I think the Abbey Wood site is outside the ULEZ.
     
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    Your right , it is , I've just checked. I assumed it copied the current low admission zone. I live in central London so my 2015 van doesn't meet the ULZ but because I'm local we have until 2021 to change the van if we don't move first.
     
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    You’re absolutely right.

    If we take Newbury as an example. The main A34 ran through the middle of the town. Loads of pollution, both noise and emissions.

    So they plan and build the underpass, much to the discuss of the tree huggers and many protesters.

    Where as before, it took 30 mins to navigate your way through the town, around all the roundabouts, vehicles pumping out fumes etc, the new bypass means that you pass Newbury in less than 3 mins, the vehicles running at an optimum speed and emissions reduced.

    The results? Cleaner air, quieter, safer town, house price increase etc.

    I’m all for the A303 Stonehenge bypass and would vote a huge yes to more roads, motorways and bypasses as they’re the only thing that makes any sense and will keep our busy, overcrowded roadways moving into the future.
     
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    It will be in 2040 when all Diesel and Petrol vehicles are banned. I wonder what the tuggers are going to do. Modern battery powered cars are not designed to tow things as it upsets their aerodynamics. As for MH’s cannot imagine what it will be like with 2-300 mile journey and then trying to find a charging post for 12 hours.
     
  12. jezport

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    https://tfl.gov.uk/modes/driving/ultra-low-emission-zone/vrm-checker-ulez
    Euro 6 seems OK plus some Euro5 vehicles registered from late 2016
     
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    There are loads of German cities that dont allow older diesels in
    and have done for several years @Harry Price
     
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    Tuggers and motorhome users will be in the same boat. There are no aerodynamic motorhomes other than those based on panel vans. Nothing will be banned come 2040 - it won't exist so there'll be no need. The face of transport will change in the same way as it did when the ICE arrived and how it turns out is very difficult to imagine 20 years in advance.
     
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    What was the date of registration?
     
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    So my van wont go into London......evry cloud etc
     
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  18. Pausim

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    October 2015.
     
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    Isn't yours euro5 then? Not euro6
     
  20. Speve

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    I think that’s about the time Euro 6 came in isn’t it.
    We had a 2015 in June I had was 5
     

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