When did Vauxhall move from Renault base to Sevel base vans ? (1 Viewer)

[Terry]

As above ?

 

[Guigsy]

Because Vauxhall/Opel are now part of the Stellantis group, which includes Fiat, Citroen and Peugeot.

 

[Terry]

I take it this happened late last year ?

 

[Terry]

Wonder if someone like Nissan will use the old Renault masters or move to Fiat etc ?

 

[Guigsy]

I guess Nissan will continue their partnership with Renault?

Apparently Toyota are also selling rebadged Ducatos.

There aren't many different van manufacturers left.

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[chaser]

What a pity int it, I think the Renaults are far better than goats just except for the width in the back.

 

[poppycamper]

Because Vauxhall/Opel are now part of the Stellantis group, which includes Fiat, Citroen and Peugeot.

That's "why" but "when" did it happen??

 

[jongood]

Wonder if someone like Nissan will use the old Renault masters or move to Fiat etc ?

ive heard that new Renault Master and Mb Sprinter share a lot of parts. Renault and Nissan are pulling apart a little

 

[Terry]

Apparently it all happened in January 1st to 16 th 2021 after being knocked back in late 2019 by French gov who are/ were part owners of Renault. I have not got to the bottom of who owns what but all to do with fiat/Chrysler and PSA group

 

[beachwomble]

Apparently it all happened in January 1st to 16 th 2021 after being knocked back in late 2019 by French gov who are/ were part owners of Renault. I have not got to the bottom of who owns what but all to do with fiat/Chrysler and PSA group

I think it was a bit later than that but I would welcome to know your source. As far as I know the Opel/Vauxhall Movano is only produced at Gliwice, Poland. Production of customers vehicles was meant to start in May 2021 but only for Citroën and Peugeot with the Movano coming a bit later.
2022 production numbers in Gliwice were much smaller than anticipated with only 27,000 of the planned 40,000 rolling off the line (late start of production and lack of parts). Initially it was only commercial vans (Jumper/Relay, Boxer &Movano), then from Q4/2022, production for leisure vehicles started. Sometime this year production of Ducato will also start (exact date unknown).

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[Emmit]

According to Wiki, 'Fiat Ducato' shows,
"Vauxhall Movano (2021–present)"

Other than that, I have no information.

 

[Terry]

Google Stellantis it’s a group from Fiat/Chrysler Peugeot and Citroen (PSA) to become Stellantis who have now bought Renault ?
Last time I looked I thought Mercedes bought Chrysler. In or around 2015 the Vito looked as if it became a rebadged Fiat Scudo /Pug Expert ? I’m a bit lost since I stopped buying car/van magazines hence my asking when the Movaneo moved to Fiat style van after I saw a 22plate van for sale. I thought it was a mistake but did a quick look around and sure enough it was kosher.

 

[Blue Moon]

Wonder if someone like Nissan will use the old Renault masters or move to Fiat etc ?

Nissan already use the Renault Master base, it’s called a Nissan NV400 and has been for some years.

 

[Blue Moon]

Google Stellantis it’s a group from Fiat/Chrysler Peugeot and Citroen (PSA) to become Stellantis who have now bought Renault ?
Last time I looked I thought Mercedes bought Chrysler. In or around 2015 the Vito looked as if it became a rebadged Fiat Scudo /Pug Expert ? I’m a bit lost since I stopped buying car/van magazines hence my asking when the Movaneo moved to Fiat style van after I saw a 22plate van for sale. I thought it was a mistake but did a quick look around and sure enough it was kosher.

By the end of this year the Vito will be the only van in that “1 tonne” sector that won’t have a re-badged twin. Even the VW Transporter and Ford Transit Custom will be the same van by year end.

 

[pilote-pete]

Google Stellantis it’s a group from Fiat/Chrysler Peugeot and Citroen (PSA) to become Stellantis who have now bought Renault ?

I think you may need to Google it yourself, Terry - Stellantis haven't bought Renault.
Renault are now in alliance with Nissan and Mitsubishi.

FCA merged with PSA under the Stellantis banner but each group retains its corporate identity.
The PSA Group and not Stellantis acquired Opel/Vauxhall.

Hence why the Movano is a clone of the Peugeot Boxer and Citroen Relay and uses the same PSA 2.2L engine and has only a manual gearbox.
The Ducato remains different to the PSA variants as only it uses FCA's Jeep-derived 2.2L and the 9s auto gearbox.

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[Terry]

Nissan already use the Renault Master base, it’s called a Nissan NV400 and has been for some years.

Yes I have known that for years along with Nissans version of the Traffic

 

[Guigsy]

I think you may need to Google it yourself, Terry - Stellantis haven't bought Renault.
Renault are now in alliance with Nissan and Mitsubishi.

FCA merged with PSA under the Stellantis banner but each group retains its corporate identity.
The PSA Group and not Stellantis acquired Opel/Vauxhall.

Hence why the Movano is a clone of the Peugeot Boxer and Citroen Relay and uses the same PSA 2.2L engine and has only a manual gearbox.
The Ducato remains different to the PSA variants as only it uses FCA's Jeep-derived 2.2L and the 9s auto gearbox.

Despite the Ducato, Boxer and Jumper being made in the same Sevel factory on the same line for the past ~15 years.

I'd be surprised if the differences hadn't reduced with the latest generation.

 

[pilote-pete]

I'd be surprised if the differences hadn't reduced with the latest generation.

I'm not so sure. Perhaps the last time that the FCA and PSA X250/X290 variants were identical was back in Euro4 days when both could be specified with a 100BHP PUMA engine and 5 speed gearbox - then it was essentially the same vehicle with a diffeernt badge. Since then both FCA and PSA have rolled off the common production line with different powerplants.