What's the best way to charge the batteries?

Teasy2007

LIFE MEMBER
Joined
Sep 26, 2007
Posts
2,086
Likes collected
1,159
Location
Rotherham South Yorkshire
Funster No
428
MH
Carthago Malibu PVC
Exp
Since 2005
Mike has to use an Oxygen Concentrator but we don't want it to affect the rallies where we don't have hookup.

Could anyone suggest a solution?

Specifications Inogen One G3 Portable Oxygen Concentrator

Width: 8.75” Height: 7.25” Depth: 3” Weight: 5.9 lbs ( 2.7 KG) with 16 cell battery.

Oxygen Dose Method: Pulse.

Oxygen Maximum Output: 840 mL. Oxygen Outlet Pressure:

Oxygen Concentration: 90% -3% / + 6% at all settings.

Noise: 42 dBA.

Average Power Consumption: 40W.

Power Requirements: Universal Power Supply: AC Input: 100 to 240 VAC, 50 to 60 Hz, Auto-Setting: 1.0A DC Input: 13.5-15 VDC, 10A. DC Output: 19VCD, 5.0A max.

Rechargeable Battery: 12V to 16.8V 8 Cell Battery Life (Setting 2): 4 hours.

16 Cell Battery Life (Setting 2): 8 hours.

This is the specifications of the oxygen concentrator, perhaps someone who is a lot more savvy than we are can tell us which generator would be best??

Thanks, Ginny and Mike
 

Peter A Forbes

Free Member
Joined
Nov 23, 2014
Posts
270
Likes collected
184
Location
Rushden, Northants, UK
Funster No
34,314
MH
Mercedes 614D
Exp
10+
There seems to be two distinct DC power options, three if you include the mains adapter.

What isn't clear is the battery configuration of the 8-cell (nominal 16Volts) or the 16-cell (nominal 32V) batteries.

Which batteries does it have included with it, and how do you power it now?

Peter
 

hilldweller

LIFE MEMBER
Joined
Dec 5, 2008
Posts
615
Likes collected
36,112
Location
Macclesfield
Funster No
5,089
MH
Zilch Mk1
Exp
From Aug 2007
DC output 19V 5A max is less than 100W max. ( just the same as a laptop ).

A 1kw genny is 10 times that so you'd run that for one tenth the medical running time provided you have the appropriate charger fitted.

How many hours does he use it a day ? Is it setting 2 ?
 

mjltigger

Free Member
Joined
Nov 12, 2014
Posts
1,620
Likes collected
2,672
Location
Trowbridge
Funster No
34,213
MH
Autotrail Dakota Max
Exp
2012
You're going to need a power source (batteries) to charge from using dc would be better but otherwise with an inverter then you're going to need a method of charging that power source - anything from a split charge relay so you run the van engine through b2b on to solar then I would say as its critical I would want to carry a backup power source such as a generator.
 

Peter A Forbes

Free Member
Joined
Nov 23, 2014
Posts
270
Likes collected
184
Location
Rushden, Northants, UK
Funster No
34,314
MH
Mercedes 614D
Exp
10+
Looking at the website, the batteries are classed as single or double, so the 16-cell battery is double the capacity of the single battery and the same voltage.

The DC power cable and AC adapter suggest that the unit will run from 12V, so a standard car battery and charger should run the unit independently from the internal battery, and the type of connectors use suggest fairly low current.

I'd look at a decent quality 12V leisure battery and some means to charge it up, either through a generator, B2B charging from the vehicle or EHU.

Peter

Subscribers  do not see these advertisements

 
OP
OP
Teasy2007

Teasy2007

LIFE MEMBER
Joined
Sep 26, 2007
Posts
2,086
Likes collected
1,159
Location
Rotherham South Yorkshire
Funster No
428
MH
Carthago Malibu PVC
Exp
Since 2005
DC output 19V 5A max is less than 100W max. ( just the same as a laptop ).

A 1kw genny is 10 times that so you'd run that for one tenth the medical running time provided you have the appropriate charger fitted.

How many hours does he use it a day ? Is it setting 2 ?

He is supposed to use it for 15 hours a day on setting 2.

Ginny
 
OP
OP
Teasy2007

Teasy2007

LIFE MEMBER
Joined
Sep 26, 2007
Posts
2,086
Likes collected
1,159
Location
Rotherham South Yorkshire
Funster No
428
MH
Carthago Malibu PVC
Exp
Since 2005
There seems to be two distinct DC power options, three if you include the mains adapter.

What isn't clear is the battery configuration of the 8-cell (nominal 16Volts) or the 16-cell (nominal 32V) batteries.

Which batteries does it have included with it, and how do you power it now?

Peter

We have only used it on 240 so far.

Ginny
 

Wildman

Free Member
Joined
May 30, 2008
Posts
0
Likes collected
8,471
Location
Ilfracombe, Devon
Funster No
2,913
MH
Amazon Ambassador
Exp
since 1967
you are looking at around 8amps per hour x 15 = 120 amp/hrs NOTHING will put that amount of power back in the batteries when you are static with reliability other than a generator.
 

funflair

LIFE MEMBER
Joined
Dec 11, 2013
Posts
20,208
Likes collected
33,983
Location
Guisborough
Funster No
29,351
MH
MORELO palace
Exp
since 2012
you are looking at around 8amps per hour x 15 = 120 amp/hrs NOTHING will put that amount of power back in the batteries when you are static with reliability other than a generator.

The spec says average consumption 40 watts so isn't that less than 4 amps from the 12 volt system ?.
 
  • Like
Reactions: DBK

Wildman

Free Member
Joined
May 30, 2008
Posts
0
Likes collected
8,471
Location
Ilfracombe, Devon
Funster No
2,913
MH
Amazon Ambassador
Exp
since 1967
I was going on Hilldwellers figures. Even so that then equates to 60 amp/hrs and my answer is still valid.

Subscribers  do not see these advertisements

 

DBK

LIFE MEMBER
Joined
Jan 9, 2013
Posts
18,560
Likes collected
50,917
Location
Plympton, Devon
Funster No
24,219
MH
PVC, Murvi Morocco
Exp
2013
I agree a genny is the best solution although a B2B charger is an option but having a genny means you have a backup for use at home in power cuts.

The genny should be running very lightly loaded so should be quiet and for reliability and quietness I think it also needs to be a Honda, especially if it has to be run at night. I would use it with an inverter. One with say 150W capacity won't be expensive.
 

hilldweller

LIFE MEMBER
Joined
Dec 5, 2008
Posts
615
Likes collected
36,112
Location
Macclesfield
Funster No
5,089
MH
Zilch Mk1
Exp
From Aug 2007
>> This is the specifications of the oxygen concentrator, perhaps someone who is a
>> lot more savvy than we are can tell us which generator would be best??

Well you are stuck with a 1kW jenny and Honda is best.

But you don't want to run it for 15 hours under a tiny load.

You need to run the mechanical lung from your leisure battery and top that up twice a day.

How do you run it off your battery ?
1. Via a small inverter as already said.
2. Via a DC power lead as specified above, which is the best way if you have it.

Next questions:

1 Do you have the DC Input 13.5V lead/adaptor ?
2 What is the spec of your leisure battery/batteries ?
 

Join us or log in to post a reply.

To join in you must be a member of MotorhomeFun

Join MotorhomeFun

Join us, it quick and easy!

Log in

Already a member? Log in here.

Latest journal entries

Back
Top