What no doors? (1 Viewer)

[Mr Ed]

I've been looking as you do at motorhomes to upgrade to and obviously would love to own a Niesmann&Bischoff. I saw a couple for sale that were just in our price-range BUT on closer inspection of the photo's it seems that they have no driver or passenger doors only the habitation door witch when on U/K roads would be on the outside.This to me seems to be a problem with dogs and if having to leave moho in an emergency on motorways.
N&B owners comment please.

 

[DavidG58]

can a Hymer owner reply??

we do have 2 doors but both on offside (UK offside)

RHD drive with drivers door and habitation door on same side, no passenger door

The motorway example is the biggest fear we have, although initially Bev was convinced that if we ever had an accident and rolled over we were bound to land on the door side and be totally trapped

Never yet been a problem for us, but as yet we haven't broken down on a motorway we only use fully off road lay byes to pull over and if the worst should happen on a motorway by getting as far left as possible we would be fairly safe for the few seconds needed to escape

 

[DavidG58]

I think I have actually seen quite a few A class MH's with only a habitation door, mainly older ones though, does make the cab area much more roomy and comfortable, prefer a coffee table to one side than a door any day

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[hilldweller]

they have no driver or passenger doors only the habitation door

I'd be quite concerned about emergency exit in the event of a fire or any emergency for that matter. For that matter, one door, one door gets used a lot, one door lock will fail a bit more than if you had two doors.

But it makes huge sense to the blinkered sales/design department to make the best of available interior.

If you do buy one I'm sure you'll find windows you could roll out of in an emergency.

 

[EuroTrotters]

Many RVs don't have doors.

 

[adonisito]

Our LHD Hymer has hab. door on one side, driver's door on the other. No problem.

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[rrusty]

My Arto only has the hab door, never been a problem in the 7 years & 41000 miles traveling in the U.K. and Europe. If some thing did happen to the door there is 2 large sliding side windows that could be used in an emergency.

 

[Zepp]

Just think of the savings you would make if you wanted to fit extra security locks you will save cash with only one door

 

[davanne]

Used to,have a Frankia a class with only a habitation door ...never had a problem but on reflection as @hilldweller says it could have been a problem in a fire as the hab door was halfway down the vehicle opposite the kitchen so had we had a fire in the kitchen anyone in the lounge area at the front of the vehicle would have been trapped.

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[Stretto Boy]

Many RVs don't have doors.

None at all? Does that mean that access and egress is through the windows or skylights?

 

[Richard Birkett]

When we started looking for our long term Motorhome, 1 door only was high on the list of wants as our previous Euramobil was broken into in Bilbao through the cab door.

 

[canopus]

Our Concorde only has the hab door for access/egress.

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[pappajohn]

I'd be quite concerned about emergency exit in the event of a fire or any emergency for that matter

That's what size 10s are for.....if the vans on fire in a serious way I certainly wouldn't hesitate in kicking out a PLASTIC window or two.
Better to fall out of a window and risk injury than stay inside and risk death.

 

[champers]

Also our Carthago only has a hab door , but windows are reasonably sized if needed at both ends

Kath

 

[pappajohn]

Many RVs don't have doors.

True, I've been stuck in mine, along with an American electrician and joiner, since it was built

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[Mr Ed]

When we started looking for our long term Motorhome, 1 door only was high on the list of wants as our previous Euramobil was broken into in Bilbao through the cab door.

Yes I can see where you are coming from with that,BUT often when parked up in towns and city's we exit our van from nearside passenger door with the dog.Not safe to open step (making us a foot wider) and get out on the offside.

As an aside when travelling on the "other side" abroad,Ikeep my warning triangle in my gas locker as that is on my side (near-side) as my locker(garage) would be on the out-side.

Thanks for the replies.

You pay your money and make your choices.

 

[TheBig1]

The motorway example is the biggest fear we have, although initially Bev was convinced that if we ever had an accident and rolled over we were bound to land on the door side and be totally trapped

if and it is a very big IF you were very unlucky and were involved in such a rollover accident, where the door side is on the floor.....there is a huge door in front of the driver and passenger. Just kick the windscreen out and walk out with the dog to safety

 

[Shropshire lad]

This was one of the reasons we chose a coachbuilt Hymer over the very similar A/B class versions. I didn't fancy not being able to get out away from the traffic.

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[treetops1]

My Rapido had a little red hammer with the paperwork ,l figured it was to break the windscreen if the need arose .We keep it on the wall adjacent the side window
And it is also excellent for breaking my slabs of toffee lol.

 

[funflair]

We have Niesmann+Bischoff Flair, Yes only the hab door and I don't concider it a problem, if you are worried about a roll onto the door side the large skylight has to open wide enough to get out through (German regs).

The cab floor in an A class van is usually raised to the level of the habitation floor and this would make it very difficult in many vans to get into, it would certainly need an electric step outside.

The other argument for not putting the door in the front is the removal of the insulation and structural integrity of that area together with reduced security as has been mentioned.

It's your choice though.

Martin

 

[tonyidle]

Many RVs don't have doors.

Bet the insides are in the same condition as when manufactured.

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[Minxy]

True, I've been stuck in mine, along with an American electrician and joiner, since it was built

.... a three-some!

 

[Minxy]

We're spoilt for choice ... we've got 5 doors on our PVC ... brilliant when it's really hot and we can throw them all open to let the air through!

 

[Geo]

Many RVs don't have doors.

Your quite right my first one didn't have any apart from the hab door
my second one did it was sold as having an escape door
Did i want to drive anything that had/needed an ESCAPE door

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[Busman]

Stop moaning and buy one

 

[WSandME]

Previous RHD Hymer (B640 Starline) had UK N/s drivers door and UK O/s hab door.
Current B660 Bestline, LHD, has the same door layout.

 

[Theonlysue]

I've had only one cab door in my last couple of mh.
Only ever used the hab door.
Also less drafts to worry about.

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[Rapphil]

Met a couple whilst looking around a dealers who would only have vehicle with hab only door as when wilding and settling down for the night would park with door by an obstruction, lampost or wall, so no break in through door possible.
We have only hab door but plenty of windows in emergency.

 

[Mr Ed]

Stop moaning and buy one

I/we will not be rushed into a rash decision by a Evertonian.(If there is such a word)
We like to take our time.

And I'll have you know I have a degree in moaning.

 

[eddie]

Many RVs don't have doors.

Climbing through the window must be a bugger

On a serious note we have one door, but three big windows ( two side one rear) are 'Emergency Exit' windows. They can be used like normal windows, openable with fly screens etc, but a red lever either side means the whole window frame and all, opens to make an emergency exit

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