What motorcycle/scooter do you carry in your garage (1 Viewer)

[Jaws]

At 109kg wet, the Sym 125 Crox and £1500 new with a five year parts warranty the choice was a no brainer for me...

 

[soppy]

Some good suggestions on this thread, but be careful of manufacturers 'quoted weights' as these are normally 'dry' weights - without fuel/oil/coolant/battery - kerb weights can be 20-30kg more

In addition there is the weight of protective clothing, helmets etc. to add to your overall payload

Can I ask what Licence the OP has, as that could also affect what can be ridden??

full licence

 

[steve69]

Just out of curiosity, wouldn't Electric bikes fulfil your needs?

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[soppy]

+1 for the KTM 390 Duke. Cracking bike and superb for the van @ about 165kg ish wet. Easy do motorway speeds two up with a top box big enough for two full face hats. Just ordered the 790 to replace it if all goes well, if not the 390 stays in the van.

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can i ask how high is your door or what's the height of the Duke

 

[Manic]

At 109kg wet, the Sym 125 Crox and £1500 new with a five year parts warranty the choice was a no brainer for me...

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Like most of its put a bit of weight on over lockdown, now 112kg and £2149.

 

[soppy]

Just out of curiosity, wouldn't Electric bikes fulfil your needs?

Yes we have electric bikes and they are great, just looking at what i could get if we wanted to go a bit further a field. Always been a biker but heavy Harley's and super bikes when younger. Good to have options.

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[steve69]

Yes we have electric bikes and they are great, just looking at what i could get if we wanted to go a bit further a field. Always been a biker but heavy Harley's and super bikes when younger. Good to have options.

I know what you mean. I used to have a small scooter but then switched to an electric bike for a couple of years now. It's fine for what I need, but I still feel the occasional pang of getting a scooter again.

 

[Vansflyer]

can i ask how high is your door or what's the height of the Duke

No problem, two pics attached. The highest point of the bike is the TFT / Front Master cylinder, highest point of the garage is to the gas strut. I changed the mirrors to bar end jobs so no faffing around taking them off and on. I also fitted a sliding rail system so I can load it in or out in about 3 mins. Shout if you need more info, happy to help.

 

[soppy]

No problem, two pics attached. The highest point of the bike is the TFT / Front Master cylinder, highest point of the garage is to the gas strut. I changed the mirrors to bar end jobs so no faffing around taking them off and on. I also fitted a sliding rail system so I can load it in or out in about 3 mins. Shout if you need more info, happy to help.

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Thanks for that. What's the sliding rail system? is it a branded version or one you have fabricated, i would be very interested to see how that works, thanks in advance

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[Vansflyer]

Been posted on here before but here you go. I purchased it directly from Italy hoping it was as good as in the video they have on the web site. It is actually better but it cost about £450 landed and that was pre Brexit. Simple design that could be copied if you were up to it, I understand the newer ones don't have adjustable end stops which isn't the end of the world but are cheaper. Used it for a couple of years now without issue and so simple to use. This is the old van with the Grom, works just as well with the KTM, you can adjust the clamp for wheel size.

 

[Jaws]

Like most of its put a bit of weight on over lockdown, now 112kg and £2149.

Yep.. the new model is Euro 5 compliant so more crap added. Though you can still buy one for JUST under £2k if you shop around

 

[Vansflyer]

Thanks for that. What's the sliding rail system? is it a branded version or one you have fabricated, i would be very interested to see how that works, thanks in advance

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[soppy]

Been posted on here before but here you go. I purchased it directly from Italy hoping it was as good as in the video they have on the web site. It is actually better but it cost about £450 landed and that was pre Brexit. Simple design that could be copied if you were up to it, I understand the newer ones don't have adjustable end stops which isn't the end of the world but are cheaper. Used it for a couple of years now without issue and so simple to use. This is the old van with the Grom, works just as well with the KTM, you can adjust the clamp for wheel size.

Thanks again top man, that looks simple and effective. On the duke does it carry two ok ask we aint small people, also what did you think of the Grom as I was quite tempted with one but thought might be under powered and cramped with two.

 

[Vansflyer]

Thanks again top man, that looks simple and effective. On the duke does it carry two ok ask we aint small people, also what did you think of the Grom as I was quite tempted with one but thought might be under powered and cramped with two.

The Grom was good but we went from going away a bit, to retiring and planning to tour Europe over many months and the Grom would have struggled to go up the mountains. It was also very cosy for me and the lady. I am 110KG and she is 50kg and the size of Kylie. The Duke has more room than it looks like but you need the ergo seats, the standard ones are shockingly hard. We fit on it with the Shad 58x top box no problem at all, arrive at wherever and put the hats in the top box. We also have soft panniers we take if the wx is hot so we can loose the jackets etc. Done 3000 miles on the Duke without serious issues, had a Power commander and dyno time to smooth out the low down fuelling but I am a fussy bloke. I wouldn't have a Grom again, the Duke is a lot better and being able to do motorway speeds easily makes a big difference at times and is a lot safer than holding up the traffic on quick roads. I have a KTM 1290 SAS in the garage for "proper biking" but often find I take the 390 for the giggles. When we had the E&P fitted in Blackburn I rode the 390 home to Birmingham and back again without issue, it really is a good little bike. My 790 is due next week and that will in theory replace the 390... Here it is in France fully loaded July 19

 

[soppy]

The Grom was good but we went from going away a bit, to retiring and planning to tour Europe over many months and the Grom would have struggled to go up the mountains. It was also very cosy for me and the lady. I am 110KG and she is 50kg and the size of Kylie. The Duke has more room than it looks like but you need the ergo seats, the standard ones are shockingly hard. We fit on it with the Shad 58x top box no problem at all, arrive at wherever and put the hats in the top box. We also have soft panniers we take if the wx is hot so we can loose the jackets etc. Done 3000 miles on the Duke without serious issues, had a Power commander and dyno time to smooth out the low down fuelling but I am a fussy bloke. I wouldn't have a Grom again, the Duke is a lot better and being able to do motorway speeds easily makes a big difference at times and is a lot safer than holding up the traffic on quick roads. I have a KTM 1290 SAS in the garage for "proper biking" but often find I take the 390 for the giggles. When we had the E&P fitted in Blackburn I rode the 390 home to Birmingham and back again without issue, it really is a good little bike. My 790 is due next week and that will in theory replace the 390... Here it is in France fully loaded July 19

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thanks for that great info, pumping you for info here, my garage is 200kg max is yours same or more and does MH ride ok with it in back

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[Vansflyer]

thanks for that great info, pumping you for info here, my garage is 200kg max is yours same or more and does MH ride ok with it in back

Pump away ;-)
Mine is 350kg max for the garage but that would likely blow the rear axle weight limit as standard. We had rear air fitted for a better ride and the ability to up-plate to 4800KG gross, 2700KG rear limit up from 2500KG. The van was fine before the air upgrade but better with it fitted.It rides just fine and done around 9k miles in the van without issue, most with the bike in the back. We travel "heavy" with full 150L water, clothes for all seasons, "proper" biking gear, two Bromptons in the garage etc and we are still legal on weight by some margin. KTM claim 149kg dry for the bike so add fuel and fluids and I reckon 165-170 ready to go so you won't have a lot left in the garage.

 

[soppy]

Pump away ;-)
Mine is 350kg max for the garage but that would likely blow the rear axle weight limit as standard. We had rear air fitted for a better ride and the ability to up-plate to 4800KG gross, 2700KG rear limit up from 2500KG. The van was fine before the air upgrade but better with it fitted.It rides just fine and done around 9k miles in the van without issue, most with the bike in the back. We travel "heavy" with full 150L water, clothes for all seasons, "proper" biking gear, two Bromptons in the garage etc and we are still legal on weight by some margin. KTM claim 149kg dry for the bike so add fuel and fluids and I reckon 165-170 ready to go so you won't have a lot left in the garage.

Thanks again, we don't carry much in garage couple of chairs, table some bits and bobs oh and couple electric bikes but would leave them at home when carrying Duke, just would gives options on where we are going and what we wanted to do, and it would get used at home also, whereas a small scooter type wouldn't get used at home. I will have to check it out carefully before committing as it would run close to limits, could always buy new MH to accommodate

 

[Vansflyer]

Thanks again, we don't carry much in garage couple of chairs, table some bits and bobs oh and couple electric bikes but would leave them at home when carrying Duke, just would gives options on where we are going and what we wanted to do, and it would get used at home also, whereas a small scooter type wouldn't get used at home. I will have to check it out carefully before committing as it would run close to limits, could always buy new MH to accommodate

Your rear axle limit will be the controlling factor along with MAUW, when we were looking at new vans I looked in the garage and got my tape measure out before even looking at the price or inside the van ;-) Good luck, shout if you need any more info.

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[BouncyBoatFolk]

Honda , " say hello, Wave goodbye",Oh, and a kingpin.
Mike

 

[Nasher]

OK time to stop pussy footing around with all the girly bikes and get yourself at least 200bhp (GSX-R 1000R L9)

The pic may be useful for seeing how I secure my motorbikes in the van

 

[fullfat]

OK time to stop pussy footing around with all the girly bikes and get yourself at least 200bhp (GSX-R 1000R L9)

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The pic may be useful for seeing how I secure my motorbikes in the van

Look at them chicken strips

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[Nasher]

Look at them chicken strips

It was the day I picked her up, brand spanking new - at the time she'd never turned a wheel in anger

 

[bobnick]

Interesting and informative thread this one for me. When we change our van soon after getting back one of the criteria will be it's ability to carry a small bike/scooter of some sorts. Options shown have broadened my initial thinking of what bike i could get.

 

[Steve and Denise]

Well like you Bob I fancied a Ktm 690 duke or similar but the practicality of a Honda sh 300 looks like it could win.

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[LARRY99]

 

[Richard n Ann]

Well like you Bob I fancied a Ktm 690 duke or similar but the practicality of a Honda sh 300 looks like it could win.

170kg though
And £5000
And only 25bhp

Why can't we have a lightweight powerful scooter! It's 2021!

 

[Steve and Denise]

170kg though
And £5000
And only 25bhp

Why can't we have a lightweight powerful scooter! It's 2021!

It’s the storage room under the seat easy for the wife to get on and not the kind of thing that will draw attention from thieves (hopefully) there are some brand new ones for just under 4K
If the two were stood side by side there would be no contest but the little step through has a lot of good points.

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[Vansflyer]

170kg though
And £5000
And only 25bhp

Why can't we have a lightweight powerful scooter! It's 2021!

We had lightweight powerful scooters, they were called two strokes and they got pushed out ;-(
Weight wise the Honda 300 and the 390 Duke are very similar, performance is a no brainer with the KTM having more than enough power for two up + luggage at motorway speeds if needed. With a good sized top box and panniers the luggage space will be better on the Duke than the Scooter, only benefit I can see with the Scooter is the step through.

 

[Steve and Denise]

We had lightweight powerful scooters, they were called two strokes and they got pushed out ;-(
Weight wise the Honda 300 and the 390 Duke are very similar, performance is a no brainer with the KTM having more than enough power for two up + luggage at motorway speeds if needed. With a good sized top box and panniers the luggage space will be better on the Duke than the Scooter, only benefit I can see with the Scooter is the step through.

2t now there’s a memory

 

[Vansflyer]

2t now there’s a memory

The smell of Castrol R is an aphrodisiac to most men over 50

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