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[Rockcrawler]

http://www.watling-towbars.co.uk/motorbike_scooter_carrier.html

Has anyone got one of these ?

 

[The Dudess]

We've got one of these. Do you have a question?
http://www.easylifter.co.uk/Non-Lift-Scooter-Rack.htm

 

[DavidG58]

TBH my first thought was,

why don't folk put more detail in the thread title

save me opening things I can't answer

sorry can't help on this one

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[Rockcrawler]

Point taken

 

[Rockcrawler]

We've got one of these. Do you have a question?
http://www.easylifter.co.uk/Non-Lift-Scooter-Rack.htm

Would you recommend it as there seem to be a lot of different makes about ?

 

[Rockcrawler]

TBH my first thought was,

why don't folk put more detail in the thread title

save me opening things I can't answer

sorry can't help on this one

Do you mean like this Touche
Interesting thought
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[DavidG58]

Do you mean like this Touche

An excellent example, even more so that I now have no idea what was in the link that FB appear to have removed

I / we will now never know, but TBH if you hadn't reminded me I would never have gone back there

Hopefully I have already adopted my own guidance, that was 8 months ago and probably posted late at night on a drinking night

 

[pappajohn]

Has anyone considered the imposed downforce on the towbar.

EVERY towbar I ever saw has a max nose weight of 70kg to 100kg.
This is the maximum load pressing down on the towbar, not just the hitch ball, and is a CE limit.

 

[Rockcrawler]

Has anyone considered the imposed downforce on the towbar.

EVERY towbar I ever saw has a max nose weight of 70kg to 100kg.
This is the maximum load pressing down on the towbar, not just the hitch ball, and is a CE limit.

That's what I think, everyone talks about being careful with axle weight but they just look quite flimsy when bolted to a towbar

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[FJmike]

It all depends on the rear overhang, please keep in mind for every 12 inches behind the back axle. The load on the axle doubles so that 100k scooter and a overhang of three foot can be easily loading the back axle by over 800kg

 

[Rockcrawler]

It all depends on the rear overhang, please keep in mind for every 12 inches behind the back axle. The load on the axle doubles so that 100k scooter and a overhang of three foot can be easily loading the back axle by over 800kg

Does that go for a tag axle too ?

 

[Vanman]

I don't have one, but have a bike and a MH and do look at these from time to time. I always try and think how easy it is to get the bike off - if you're on your own. Forwards under power looks reasonable but I'm not so sure about reversing it off. The description made me laugh - No reversing difficulties (unless you forget it's there presumably)!

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[Bailey58]

Can't comment on the scooter rack but I can say Watling did an excellent job on my towbar and bike rack.

 

[two]

My thoughts:

Too much weight too far back. Especially if front wheel drive. You may well overload your back axle. I’d look for a supported one (with castors) or a trailer. More expensive though.

 

[Robert Clark]

I used Watling to fit a tow bar and the same bike rack as @Bailey58 has on our first motorhome (a Besseccarr)

Fitting of the bike rack was poor - found out when I got home that the long safety pin which prevents the bike rack being coming off, was not properly fitted.

The wiring at the front end of the van meant that the drivers floor well cover had to be removed - only half the screws were re fitted, the other half were lost.

On reflection and all things considered, would not recommend the company

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[peterc10]

It all depends on the rear overhang, please keep in mind for every 12 inches behind the back axle. The load on the axle doubles so that 100k scooter and a overhang of three foot can be easily loading the back axle by over 800kg

I don't know where you got that formula and those figures from, but they are wrong, unless you have wheelbase on your motorhome of a foot, which is impossible if you have 15" wheels!. It will double once the overhang becomes the same as the length of the wheelbase. In my case than means 4m. And it is not exponential either, as your figures suggest. Otherwise none of would be able to keep anything in our garages

 

[Bailey58]

I used Watling to fit a tow bar and the same bike rack as @Bailey58 has on our first motorhome (a Besseccarr)

Fitting of the bike rack was poor - found out when I got home that the long safety pin which prevents the bike rack being coming off, was not properly fitted.

The wiring at the front end of the van meant that the drivers floor well cover had to be removed - only half the screws were re fitted, the other half were lost.

On reflection and all things considered, would not recommend the company

I seem to remember you posting that in the distant past but just goes to show doesn't it, never had any problems with mine. Why the need for the wiring at the front, it's a while ago for me too but mine had pre-installed connections for the wiring loom at the rear?

 

[Robert Clark]

I seem to remember you posting that in the distant past but just goes to show doesn't it, never had any problems with mine. Why the need for the wiring at the front, it's a while ago for me too but mine had pre-installed connections for the wiring loom at the rear?

I think the wiring at the front was to the buzzer that sounds when the indicators are flashing.

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[The Dudess]

Would you recommend it as there seem to be a lot of different makes about ?

Our scooter rack was fitted to our previous van when we bought it (a Pilote 742G - 4,250 kgs with Alko Chassis) and we have had it moved over to our new van (a Frankia I720 Plus 4,500 kgs with Alko Chassis) after having a tow bar fitted by Mike Parkinson in Preston. The Watling site gives you lots of information as to what load you can put on your tow bar - it is definately advisable to caluculate your weights, dimensions and loads. Our scooter is a Honda Vision and weighs 102 kgs. We have found it quite easy to load and unload the bike on the Easylift, although it does take 2 people - one to steady the bike whilst the ratchets straps are put on and again once the ratchet straps have been removed before the bike is offloaded. We have done over 15,000 miles in the Pilote with the scooter on the Easylift and have never had a problem.
Hope this helps.

 

[Minxy]

The first question is how much spare capacity have you got on your rear axle(s) when fully loaded in holiday trim BEFORE you add the rack and scooter?