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mitzimad

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I've recently run out of acetylene not having an account and also not sure how legal having acetylene is in a domestic garage .I'm thinking of buying an tig invertor just for the odd bit of welding and brazing i still do , not much as ive had the bottles 20 years and they wasn't full when i acquired them
so my question for the welders on here is will either of these do me and is there any advantage of one to the other

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mitzimad said:
I've recently run out of acetylene not having an account and also not sure how legal having acetylene is in a domestic garage .I'm thinking of buying an tig invertor just for the odd bit of welding and brazing i still do , not much as ive had the bottles 20 years and they wasn't full when i acquired them
so my question for the welders on here is will either of these do me and is there any advantage of one to the other

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and while im here how do you shorten those ebay links?
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Make sure you've got a power circuit capable of supplying the amperage required to run it. Some welders require well in excess of what you may normally have in a domestic environment.
 
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I chucked in my BOC cylinder account years ago as I was not gas welding as much and the monthly bottle hire was going up and up.
I change over to SGS bottles, one off deposit on a bottle then you just pay for the exchange refill.
Loads of stockist around the country.

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BOC also do a Hobby Welder account which are smaller bottles but competitive pricing
 
Don’t forget if your TIG welding your gonna need a supply of Argon.

I struggle to get my bottle filled, the suppliers want you to rent bottles from them.....In a Calor gas kind of extortion agreement.

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I wouldn't tell anyone you have acetylene, the rules changed a few years ago
My insurance company have no problem with me storing my race methanol at home but acetylene is a big no
As has been said you need argon for tig and can be troublesome to get in small bottles
What are you welding? If you are good then a gasless mig will do most hobby stuff, I can do aluminium with a mig
I only use a tig for race car work or if I'm doing stainless
 
I use Hobbyweld for my gas, one off deposit and no rental. Argon or oxygen are around the £40 mark, but when I enquired about acetylene, I'm sure it was over £200 for a refill ?
This is the size of bottles I get.
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mitzimad said:
Im really looking to get away from gas any coments on the welders?
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For me I'd be going with the first one for Tig as it has a foot pedal start& control of power.Whereas the second one appears to be scratch start & power set fixed & would need to be adjusted by the dials.
 
can someone tell me, is mig the same as arc ?

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Nope there completely different letters and not even at the same end of the alphabet
 
Tombola said:
can someone tell me, is mig the same as arc ?
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Very basic answer is no.
By arc I guess you are referring to MMA which is often referred to as stick welding and uses an electrode (stick) to produce an electrical arc to melt and join the component parts.
MIG uses a similar power source but utilises a wire which is fed through a flexible sheath to a torch mounted at the end, most commercial MIG plants also utilise an inert gas as a shield for the arc, however many hobby type machines are being produced that are gasless they utilise a flux cored wire.
That is a very basic explanation, if you want in depth information do an internet search or ask a specific question here.
Just buying and owning a welding machine will not make you a welder.
 
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I'm a mig and tig welder, I use mig when welding vehicles as its press trigger and out comes the wire good for confined spaces. Tig
 
Welderkev said:
I'm a mig and tig welder, I use mig when welding vehicles as its press trigger and out comes the wire good for confined spaces. Tig on the other hand is more for clean steel and needs a steady hand I use tig when making metalwork where the welds are on show.
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eurajohn said:
Very basic answer is no.
By arc I guess you are referring to MMA which is often referred to as stick welding and uses an electrode (stick) to produce an electrical arc to melt and join the component parts.
MIG uses a similar power source but utilises a wire which is fed through a flexible sheath to a torch mounted at the end, most commercial MIG plants also utilise an inert gas as a shield for the arc, however many hobby type machines are being produced that are gasless they utilise a flux cored wire.
That is a very basic explanation, if you want in depth information do an internet search or ask a specific question here.
Just buying and owning a welding machine will not make you a welder.
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Yeah thanks,
I did Arc after school as an apprentice but learned more about going the chippy and making tea so did a small course when a bit older.
I then was always confused with mig and tig etc.
I can run a decent Arc weld without bird shit on it but have never tried tig/mig
 
At college I was forced to learn stick and gas welding. Was also forced to pick between tig and mig. I chose tig.

I keep promising myself that one day I will buy an AC/DC tig welder and get into aluminium welding. Ideally would love a small workshop with lots of machine tools, CNC/Lathe/Milling machine etc. I hated it at college but have come to appreciate it later in life.
 
Gromett said:
etween tig and mig. I chose tig.

I keep promising myself that one day I will buy an AC/DC tig welder and get into aluminium welding. Ideally would love a small workshop with lots of machine tools, CNC/Lathe/Milling machine etc. I hated it at college but have come to appreciate it later in life.
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Similar to me, and I learned forge and anvil work, tempering metal, lathe and milling machines, never to any great degree and used since but it taught me some basic skills and appreciation that I have developed over time.
 
I have, over the years, used stick, mig and tig. I still have a stick welder and a mig. If there is a quick bit of welding to do I usually reach for my mig welder as it has wheels and just needs plugging in. As it is a hobby size the gas bottle is small and clipped to the back. All I need to do is clip on the earth and flip the on switch. The argon/co2 bottle is not the cheapest to replace (about £12) but as I don't do a lot of welding it sits there for a year or two each time. It is also quite quick to swap from mild steel welding wire to stainless if you have a reel of both.

Looks a bit like this one.... https://www.machinemart.co.uk/p/135te-turbo-mig-welder/
 
Many moons ago I was adept at stick welding.

That's what I used to use for car bodies, I know I even wonder how I used to manage it 😊

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