Weight v Power Scooter ?

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  1. mojo

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    We are looking at the lightest scooter but a good power for two up.I think the SH Mode 125cc by Honda seems a good idea at 116kg @11.3 bhp . Any other suggestions ?
    I have a full bike licence but the weight is important.
     
  2. Blue Knight

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    Have you checked to see if you have sufficient payload available. How will you be mounting it; garage or rear slung and via what support mechanism.

    Cheers,

    Andrew
     
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  3. mojo

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    In rear garage,450kg max but rear axle only 150 kg available .I will use the tie down lugs provided in the floor
     
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    The new 2017 KTM Duke 390
    44bhp and only 149kg :love:

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    Gilera 180 Runner if you can find one. Really quick and only about 120kg.
     
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    As mentioned many times on here 150Kg at the rear is considerably more at the rear axle - dependant on rear overhang.
     
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    Our 125 Yam manages us both quite well and we don't suffer from anorexia ;)
    There's a chart somewhere where you measure where load is going to centre of back axle and it gives actual weight.
    Our Moho right now is loaded to the gunnels ready for our winter in Spain, full tanks and extras on board and went over the weighbridge two up with 125kgs to go on rear axles.

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    Unless your garage is almost on your back axle 116kg scooter and rack to carry it in garage will be over 150kg on the axle . Do the maths before you buy :)
     
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    What suspension do you have?

    Air could be a good idea. Bit expensive if its Alko but if its on leafs you can get the helpers fairly cheaply, makes a big difference.

    Jon
    btw have you got any height issues?
     
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    We used a Honda 125cc Innova on ours at just over 100kg.

    Carried two fairly well padded passengers anywhere we wanted to go at about 50 mph.

    Now carrying Honda PCX 125 scooter but, at 130kg, we now use a Hydratrail trailer to keep weight off back axle.
     
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    We have air on rear.Calculations are 120kg in garage is 170 axle load.The same on scooter rack inc rack @150kg is 250 axle load.
     
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    Honda Innova 125cc. 4 speed semi auto gearbox, big stable wheels, easily cruises 2 up, goes up mountains and steep hills, bulletproof Honda reliability, and only a smidgen over 100kgs.
     
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    If I placed that particular Scooter in my MoHo garage then it would have a 168.3kg effect on the rear axle. I'll stick with a mountain bike or my 4x4 hiking boots:D2
     
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    Thanks Nomad ,the Honda brochure does not have a Innova .For that weight they show a Vision 110 @102 kg ,110cc. 8.7bhp.
    Will look in to the Innova .
    Blue Knight,seems we have similar wheelbase and garage centre line .I lose 47kg on front axle and will be replacing three batteries @ 88kg from the garage with Lithium to front @ 23 kg. I already have capacity so with scooter so still have some left.
    As stated,if I use a rear scooter carrier it is close to the mark
     
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    My wheelbase is 4040mm and the distance from the axle to the central garage point is 1880mm. My overhang is just too big for a rear mounted scooter plus the scaffolding to hold it there.

    Regards,

    Andrew
     
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    Yes similar,mine is 4325mm and 1700mm to cl
     
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    161.5kg then; very close to your 150 target.
     
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    We have a Honda 100cc for sale. Pulls like a little train even with me 100kg (ish) and 'er indoors rather less. Not to the liking of 'er indoors apparently
     
  19. mojo

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    Back from the showrooms.Yamaha Delight 125 cc at 99 kg wet.But small wheels ,preferred larger diameter wheels of the Honda SH MODE at 116 wet.Honda looks a better product .
     
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    Having a full bike license and having to ride a 125cc scooter twos up most of the time will drive you mad...
    We had a new Honda Forza 125 which swallowed 2 helmets under the seat and shopping in the top box for a year but even though it was the largest/most capable 125 out there it lacked the power and safety coming off the roundabouts
    I kidded myself all would be OK and that we wouldn’t miss our CBR1000 from yesterdayear but it just gnaws away at you once you get out on the open road again
    The result was we fully appreciated the convenience and easy ride of a scooter so swapped it for a Yamaha TMax 530 and tow it in a box trailer.
    Of course the trailer is rammed with other full timing essentials but have you considered a lightweight open bike trailer for your needs?
    Easy to manoeuvre and you get to ride a decent bike twos up....
     
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