Weighed each corner of our Rapido A class (1 Viewer)

[Lorryman100]

When we were down at Moffat I took the opportunity to weigh each corner of our Rapido A class with the Reichs portable scales I have. With myself, Elaine and Daisy the cocker, water tank was filled to brimming (120l in tank and 20l for boiler, pipework etc), 1/2 tank of diesel, 2 x 11kg Gaslow tanks were freshly filled prior to departure, fridge was loaded as were clothes, dog food, electrical goodies etc etc. As it was only 2 nights the only alcohol we took were 4 cans of lager, 4 cans of Cidre and 2 bottles of wine. The MoHo has fitted over standard, Fiamma awning, 2 x solar panels, extra 110Ah leisure battery, Cytrac satellite system, Gaslow and VB air assist suspension which probably add another 100kgs, then there is about another 100kgs of stuff in the garage, most of it just in case which is now going in the garage at home! So ran each wheel over the scales and here are the results:

F/N/S = 824 kg F/O/S = 971kgs Front axle total = 1795 kgs Plated weight = 1850kgs
R/N/S = 1023 kgs R/O/S = 1070 kgs Rear axle total = 2093kgs Plated weight = 2240kgs

Gross vehicle weight: 3888kgs Plated weight: 3850kgs Overweight by 38kgs

I done the weighing a second time and got the exact same results. Recently when I used a weighbridge the front and rear axle combined weights were near enough the same as the Reichs scales, + or - 10kgs so I am happy with the calibration.
Looks like I am going to have to keep an eye on the vehicle gross weight as the individual axle weights were within their individual plated weights.

 

[hilldweller]

Looks like I am going to have to keep an eye on the vehicle gross weight as the individual axle weights were within their individual plated weights.

I made that mistake for years. Improved things by getting the back axle limit upped by svtech.

 

[Techno]

JR consultancy only charge £142

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[Flamenca]

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[Lorryman100]

The rear axle has been upgraded to 2240kgs and the gross vehicle weight from 3500kg to 3850kg. As it is the light chassis 3850kgs is the maximum GVW even though the uprated axle weights give a total of 4090kgs.

 

[scotjimland]

The sum of the axle weights does not equal the GVW .. or MAM

My Hymer has

4,000 kg GVW
1850 kg Front Axle
2300 kg Rear Axle

Sum of axle weights = 4150 kg ..

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[Flamenca]

@scotjimland sorry....edit as I misread your post. I agree, the GVW is not necessarily the sum of the individual max axle weights.

 

[Techno]

Mine is 2100 2650 total 4750

 

[scotjimland]

@scotjimland I believe the GVW is not necessarily the sum of the individual max axle weights.

that's what I said..

The sum of the axle weights does not equal the GVW .. or MAM

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[Flamenca]

that's what I said..

The sum of the axle weights does not equal the GVW .. or MAM

Yes, I misread you post and have since edited mine

 

[Techno]

that's what I said..

The sum of the axle weights does not equal the GVW .. or MAM

Mine does

 

[scotjimland]

Mine does

that's since you up-plated.. what was before ?

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[Techno]

that's since you up-plated.. what was before ?

I thought up plating was the subject? £142

 

[Steve and Denise]

I think @jock&rita may have just done a similar exercise .

 

[scotjimland]

I thought up plating was the subject? £142

my mistake.. I thought it was about axle weights.

never mind.. I'll say no more

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[Lorryman100]

The subject was that even though none of the axles were overloaded, the plated revenue weight was, by 38 kgs.

 

[Techno]

my mistake.. I thought it was about axle weights.

never mind.. I'll say no more

Sorry I thought the inference from Brian's post was to up plate it.
Surely it can go to 4090

 

[Lorryman100]

Not on the light chassis, 3850kgs is the maximum I have been led to believe. To get the rear up rated to 2240kgs required the air assist and higher load rated tyres to be fitted.

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[icantremember]

The rear axle has been upgraded to 2240kgs and the gross vehicle weight from 3500kg to 3850kg. As it is the light chassis 3850kgs is the maximum GVW even though the uprated axle weights give a total of 4090kgs.

Is that a Fiat / Peugeot chassis or is it Al-Ko?

 

[Lorryman100]

Fiat light chassis.

 

[hilldweller]

The rear axle has been upgraded to 2240kgs

Stuffed comes to mind.

Apart from the quantity of water on board. At least if they fine you you can continue after you dump the water.

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[laneside]

Yep we had a Rapido 791ff with a huge garage and even after up rating to 3850 I could only put 40Kg in the garage to keep back axle weight legal. If we were to have put a tow bar on the garage would have to have been left empty and the 40 Kg would probably have been exceeded by the tow bar weight. It does beg how many vans on the road are legal

 

[PeteH]

http://www.al-ko.co.uk/edit/files/downloads/al-ko-amc-commercial-brochure-2010.pdf Page 18 gives the ratings for the Alko Chassis. 3850Kg is the maximum for 215/70R15C tyres. To go any higher requires a change to 225/75R16C (16") wheels and Tyres. AND likely "Air" on the rear at least.

Pete

 

[Jagtazman]

Not on the light chassis, 3850kgs is the maximum I have been led to believe. To get the rear up rated to 2240kgs required the air assist and higher load rated tyres to be fitted.

Yup same as me light chassis mine is alko and I was told the same. Can upgrade further with AS and tyres. But not total plated. IMHO not worth it

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