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  1. David and Sally

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    I took my Adria for its MOT today.

    The tester said I may be overweight on the rear axle. His MOT weights measured on the brake machine were

    Tester Front 1630 Adria Plate 1850 Fiat Plate 1850
    Total 3688 3500 3650
    Rear 2058 2000 2000

    So Idoubted his weight figures and he did admit they were probably not that accurate ???
    Anyway, up the road is a quarry that will weigh motorhomes. Lovely lady said unless I needed a certificate just drive over the bridge and take a note of the numbers..

    F 1500
    T 3380
    R 1880

    so, I'm a bit happier.

    But weights were with

    Towbar
    Driver
    Garage usual stuff incl spare wheel

    But no food, water, very little fuel,

    Leaves me about 120Kg of fuel, water, passenger, clothing, food which is not a lot.

    Van can be up-plated to 3650 kg so I might explore that. Looks like I might have to transfer the spare wheel to somewhere further forward too. That would help the rear axle loading.

    Not easy all this motorhoming stuff is it?:)

    Sorry figures not easy to read, computer bunches them up!
     
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    Hard to comment without knowing what is stated on your vehicle’s weight plate.
     
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    They are above next to the tester's weights...just not easy to tabulate them
     
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    I would suggest that van is almost unusable without uprating. You have virtually nothing left to play with once two people are in it.
     
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    Driver in there but no passenger

    I have left

    Front 350
    Total 120
    Rear 120

    against the Adria plate
     
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    I think you will struggle even updating to 3650kg as that’s only an extra 150kg by time you’ve put the other half in and filled up with fuel not much payload at all.:(
    Good luck with whatever you decide(y)(y)
     
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  8. David and Sally

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    I think a forensic going through the garage contents.!!

    I'll read up on the process pros/cons of up-plating
     
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    Do you really need the tow bar? If not, they are heavy things to carry just in case you might need to tow at some point. My Hymer had one fitted when we bought it but as we never towed, I had it removed - and I had enough payload anyway. The tow bar is still in my garage but when I move it to clean behind, I can barely lift it!
     
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    You said the weight included a towbar. You could put all the heavy stuff in a trailer to get a bit more payload or remove the towbar which might save 50kg+.
     
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    Need the towbar as I tow a m/cycle. I do have a separate box trailer so when we go on hols this year I might take that if I don't take the m/cycle.
    It just shows how soon payload is eaten up.
     
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    Just a full tank of water will put you on the limit, you should be able to uprate to 3850 not sure why the Fiat plate says 3650. Need to talk to SV Tech, they will be able to confirm.
    Also not much capacity on the rear axle so you may need to fit rear air and higher rated tyres, if you have 16" wheels tyres shold be OK .That will give you a rear axle loading of 2240kg.

    Edit:
    Just saw your post about motorbike and trailer, when hitched you probably only have a few kg left on the rear axle, so won't be able to put anything in the garage unless you uprate the rear axle.
     
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    Perhaps you could find a van type trailer that would take the m/cycle and some payload?
     
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    Thanks Lennie. If I carry just a few litres of water - just enough to get by to get to a site, keep fuel sensible - why haul a full tank unless doing serious miles a day - and buy my beer when I get there I'll probably just up-rate & move some weight from back to further forward if possible.
     
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    I have a trailer like that too. It's rated at 2.6t so too big for the Adria (on paper). Roller rear dor so I could make up a ramp.

    For me, the main issue is how little real-life payload the makers expect us to get on with. On our holidays last year the MH did not look overweight and I guess the chance of getting pulled are quite slim - but it is something I am going to keep an eye on.
     
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    When we moved from a VW camper to a Ducato PVC I wondered what my weights might be so on return from France with full fuel tank (120L), full Gey and fresh water (100L each) two people and all our gear plus the 'contriband' of wine and beer I took it to a weighbridge and found I was 50Kg over the 3500 limit. So, quite happy with that as I would never travel with that combination again!
     
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    I think under running conditions you are going to be over by quite a bit on the rear axle usually not much heavy stuff you can move forward.
     
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    Yeh. The only thing that is significant weight in the rear is the spare wheel. Not sure what that weighs? - steel 15".

    In the UK I might just leave it behind and rely on recovery if I get a puncture(?) or one of those goo/CO2 kits. If abroad I'll reengineer our load. I think the towbar has eaten into our allowance a fair bit so I'll just have to use it and tow some payload.

    I have a 6' x 4' Box trailer so will probably use that if away for some time. That is ok for about 250kg.
     
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    25kg

    Towbar weight at least 50kg and it's all behind the rear axle then there is the nose weight of the trailer maybe around 50kg.
     
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