weighbridge - it seemed like a good idea (1 Viewer)

[John de Manche]

and mostly it will virtually double the toll, stick to non tolls, no difference then

Our MH is 3.05 metres high. We were charged €14.40 at two peages on the A63 south of Bordeaux, classe 3. The classe 2 rate was only €5.20. We didn't know at the time you could query the amount. What made it worse was that according to my atlas ( admittedly 2013) most of this road was toll free. We don't normally use toll roads but there does not seem to be a N or D route running from Bordeaux to Bayonne.

 

[Figaro]

You get cheaper road tax

How much cheaper should it be and why, mines plated at 3850 and £230 road tax

 

[Bailey58]

£165 if I remember right so you need to check.

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[irnbru]

If it comes up with class 3 press the button and say "Nous sommes une CampingCar . Je pense que nous devrions être de classe 2" It might not work every time but it will more often than not.

Until they reply in French and you don't know a word they are saying.

 

[DavidG58]

Our MH is 3.05 metres high. We were charged €14.40 at two peages on the A63 south of Bordeaux, classe 3. The classe 2 rate was only €5.20. We didn't know at the time you could query the amount. What made it worse was that according to my atlas ( admittedly 2013) most of this road was toll free. We don't normally use toll roads but there does not seem to be a N or D route running from Bordeaux to Bayonne.

I think a lot of us got caught on the same road last year, we got lucky and had heard about the buzzer option and al of ours got reduced, but came back over the mountains to remove doubt

 

[lou020]

as long as your axle weights are under the plated weights vosa can't touch you. they wont prosecute on gross weight overloading. If your axles are over + gross weight then they will prosecute.
we used to get weigh checked regularly with the trucks, plated at 38tonnes and were pushing 39500kgs.
even now 44tonnes . sometimes were at closer to 45 tonne

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[funflair]

You should be Class 2 if you're less than 3m high and Class 3 over 3m no matter what weight you are but they will usually let you get away with Class 2 in a MH whatever. A lot of the time it may only be a few cents so it's more about the principle than saving loads of money.

Over 3.5T is class 3, on the toll around Bordeaux class 2 was €5.60 and class 3 was €14.40.

Pressing the button and pleading "class 2 camping car" only brought out the attendant with a tape measure and the conclusion was Tres giant, pay up.

Oops didn't see the other post on this, yeas it was two tolls and we thought it was free as well.

 

[GWAYGWAY]

Also If going in to London emission zone if you do not have the right euro 3 , 4 or 5 engine etc for that weight

That IS IMPORTANT Mine is 3860 and euro 3 Ford Transit and that invited an invitation to pay £1000 fine/penalty unless I paid the £200 prebooking fee. As I was treated as having a Lorry which needed Euro IV since 2012. If it was below 3500kg then it would be alright. The alternative route is to go around the M25 the entire way the other way around 121 miles if the tunnel is closed as it was then, no going down to the Blackwall tunnel.

 

[GWAYGWAY]

How much cheaper should it be and why, mines plated at 3850 and £230 road tax

Should be £165 for private HGV

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[Figaro]

Really, I`ll need to look into this, does it depend on what it is recorded as on the V5 ?

 

[DanielFord]

Really, I`ll need to look into this, does it depend on what it is recorded as on the V5 ?

You do indeed, PHGV is £165, just paid mine, and I am 4005 plated weight. Sounds like DVLA have not updated their records for you! Not surprised, took me nearly a year to get my car re-registered as bi-fuel when I converted her to gas!

 

[Figaro]

I don`t think anything has changed and it was plated at 3850 from new / import (it`s a hymer) but I will try and ring DVLA to query it

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[StefAndDi]

I'm seeking some advice here.

Say I take my MH to the weighbridge of my own accord and it is found to be over-weight, what action, if any, will be taken? Would it be treated as an advisory? Or maybe a requirement to return on a future date to ensure that the vehicles weight had been reduced?

I emphasise that I am talking about a voluntery visit and not one resulting from a roadside spot check.

Stef.

 

[DanielFord]

I'm seeking some advice here.

Say I take my MH to the weighbridge of my own accord and it is found to be over-weight, what action, if any, will be taken? Would it be treated as an advisory? Or maybe a requirement to return on a future date to ensure that the vehicles weight had been reduced?

I emphasise that I am talking about a voluntery visit and not one resulting from a roadside spot check.

Stef.

Nothing will happen. A public weighbridge will be a business of some sort who will charge you to use the bridge. The one I used was the local scrap merchants and cost me £5. They will advise you of your weight, give you the ticket, it is then down to you to sort out if you are over weight.

 

[Lenny HB]

Unless it is a manned VOSA one, nothing. I use an unmanned roadside VOSA one that is available 24/7.

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[gus-lopez]

Unless it is a manned VOSA one, nothing. I use an unmanned roadside VOSA one that is available 24/7.

I'd be suspicious that it had cctv linked to weight recordings for a later pull .

 

[Forestboy]

Nothing will happen I used to own several weighbridges all were registered as public weighbridges. You'll just be given a ticket showing your weights. How would they know even if you were over weight unless you told them. Most public weighbridges are in small local business premises and its just a bit of extra income.
Dont over think it or worry too much. Better to do it before you leave on a trip where at least you can sort it out than wait until something goes wrong.

 

[DanielFord]

@StefAndDi to find a convenient location, put this search into google:
public weighbridge [insert closest location here]

I used you location from your profile, and most seem to be scrap merchants, quarries or steel works. The council also maintains a list of places you can go.
For the sake of a few quid, it is well worth it for the peace of mind. I know I panicked every time I saw a VOSA patrol until I was weighed.

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[32143]

Yes I was wondering that too, thanks.
Think will weigh ours empty of our kit with the water and petrol full first, and just the driver, get the paper for future ref if want to sell.
Then put all our stuff including the dogs and us and do it again to be sure we are ok.

Lin

 

[Manic]

But I have a 5t Hymer

You can contact Hymer direct and they will tell you if you can up-rate as a paper exercise, I did with my B584 and up't it from 3500 to 3850 as paper work only, it was cheaper than SV Tec.
I contacted Lisa Hummel at
eMail: kundendienst@hymer.com

 

[Steve]

most of the uprating of weights I see on here are to get from 3.5 to about 3.8 tons, are there any issues going from 5 tons to higher and how much is sensible / practical ?

I had mine up rated to 4oookg from 3500kg could have gone for 3850 but what is the point. 4000kg is the max that it can go to. With full diesel, full water, full gas but no driver/passengers it was 3535kg. so now ok but have to keep an eye on the rear axle as the overhange is large.
Steve

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[Dawn B]

I had mine up rated to 4oookg from 3500kg could have gone for 3850 but what is the point. 4000kg is the max that it can go to. With full diesel, full water, full gas but no driver/passengers it was 3535kg. so now ok but have to keep an eye on the rear axle as the overhange is large.
Steve

And you had the nerve to call me fat

 

[DavidG58]

Just waiting for a call back from SV Tech, aren't they a really nice firm to deal with, so far all free advice and so professional

I might have got a break in my luck, normally I am always just too late or just too early, but it is possible my chassis just falls in for an upgrade option maybe as high as 5.5ton, but anything would help

now realise why we don't get above 20mpg very often

 

[DavidG58]

my luck has held, just had the call back, paper exercise by SV Tech, my contact was Steve (very impressed) £260 + VAT, could all be done while we are in France, so hopefully will come back legally at 5.5ton gross

they don't even need original V5 so we can take that with us

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[Dawn B]

my luck has held, just had the call back, paper exercise by SV Tech, my contact was Steve (very impressed) £260 + VAT, could all be done while we are in France, so hopefully will come back legally at 5.5ton gross

they don't even need original V5 so we can take that with us

That's a good diet

 

[funflair]

my luck has held, just had the call back, paper exercise by SV Tech, my contact was Steve (very impressed) £260 + VAT, could all be done while we are in France, so hopefully will come back legally at 5.5ton gross

they don't even need original V5 so we can take that with us

Bet you still come back overloaded

 

[Lenny HB]

I changed my tyres so I could take full advantage of rear axle loading ready to upgrade. I jumped the gun a bit, just spoken to SV Tech, on the Al-ko chassis can't upgrade the rear axle without either air assist or changing the torsion bars. Upgrading to 3850 I will only gain about 120-150kg should be enough. I will have to weigh it with a nearly empty fuel tank to make sure that it doesn't go over the axle limit if the front is lighter. If it doesn't work out I'll have to spend £800 on air.

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[PaulyP]

my luck has held, just had the call back, paper exercise by SV Tech, my contact was Steve (very impressed) £260 + VAT, could all be done while we are in France, so hopefully will come back legally at 5.5ton gross

they don't even need original V5 so we can take that with us

I dealt with Steve, see my post headed Sv Tech, all done in a week, very impressed.

 

[DavidG58]

I changed my tyres so I could take full advantage of rear axle loading ready to upgrade. I jumped the gun a bit, just spoken to SV Tech, on the Al-ko chassis can't upgrade the rear axle without either air assist or changing the torsion bars. Upgrading to 3850 I will only gain about 120-150kg should be enough. I will have to weigh it with a nearly empty fuel tank to make sure that it doesn't go over the axle limit if the front is lighter. If it doesn't work out I'll have to spend £800 on air.

I am no use on the technical reasons, but you may have seen my thread on Mercedes Air Suspension, we have just removed the air bag with manual control from ours and fitted full VS air suspension. If you are only fitting the £800 for compliance I would stick with that, I can't speak for what ours would have been like without the simple system, but it was next to useless with it but we are quite a bit heavier (come on Dawn your turn again)

 

[Steve]

And you had the nerve to call me fat

never! i like life tooomuch x

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