Well as we had the day off we drove down to the NEC to have a look for new chairs a bin and so e small items, we came back with 4 glass holders. We have been thinking for a while that we will downsize to a van conversion in the next year or two as Sophie won't be coming with us as much. They had loads of vans on display with all different layouts and standards but for us the Globecar win hands down, we liked the Scout Family L means Sophie could still joins us if she wants. Now didn't go looking for a van but enquired about price to change our Adria Matrix 2010, for the L with all the accessories and a few extras very varying prices and within 10/15 mins got the price to change down by £7k. Told him no as would need to take another £4k off at least, had two calls on the way home and I'm sure if we want to we could get him there. As for the other makes they all had things going for them, the sun life I think that's its name by Adria came in at £37k not a bad van for the money slightly more basic but good value. Also had a look at the Hymer van conversion and was rather disappointed with it and the sales team. I couldn't stand upright in the shower and I'm only a touch over 6ft, as for the salesmen I asked two for info and both replied oh your Scottish better speak to the Scottish dealer. Asked for him at the Hymer reception to be told he wasn't there, when asked if anyone else would help they had to force someone to speak to me. What really surprised me was how little some salesmen knew about their product, I asked a couple about the insulations values in the van conversion s and some of the replies where, there's material stuff in the inside its got some but not sure how much. One said I was the only person out of hundreds to ask. One sales rep that really pissed me off was the female at Concorde, I asked for a look in the two MH's and she said you do know the price don't you.