Up-plating In France?

[HKF]

Hi everyone

Just been to the weighbridge and we need to up-plate our MoHo from 3.5t. Does anyone know how to do this in France, please? Also, does anyone know what the process might entail, how long it takes and how much it costs, please? I'm not bothered about the cost (just interested to find out) but would like to know how to go about it. Thank you so much

Please don't talk to me about licences or how to reduce the weight. I'm not asking about that Thanks

 

[Verteuil Man]

Is your moho registered in France or the UK?

 

[HKF]

Is your moho registered in France or the UK?

Hi. It's French registered

 

[Verteuil Man]

OK. I am not sure. I have put a couple of UK cars onto French plates and changed a French car bought from another department (old rules) and put a Hilux on French plates which was a pig and took a year. With it being commercial in involved Drire which I assume you will get involved with. It is like the French VOSA for HGVs. A French man comes out with a cup of coffee in his hand, grunts, shrugs and disappears.

 

[HKF]

OK. I am not sure. I have put a couple of UK cars onto French plates and changed a French car bought from another department (old rules) and put a Hilux on French plates which was a pig and took a year. With it being commercial in involved Drire which I assume you will get involved with. It is like the French VOSA for HGVs. A French man comes out with a cup of coffee in his hand, grunts, shrugs and disappears.

Hahaha, that sounds about right!! We've imported one vehicle already, bought another one from different department (new rules ) and have UK registered vehicle here on a 6 month Green Card. Up-plating the MoHo will be a new venture!!

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[Verteuil Man]

Good luck.

 

[Charente16]

I may be wrong, but I think you may find that it is not possible to deviate from the manufacturer's original specification. Reason for saying that is I asked the Fiat Commercial garage in Ruffec to get me a set of 16inch wheels to replace the 'OEM' 15 inch wheels. They said no problem, but advised strongly against changing them as the vehicle would no longer be as per the Certificate of Conformity.

I imported a Morgan, complete with C of C, which was refered by the Prefecture to DRIA, not an experience I would wish to repeat.

Good Luck

Robert

 

[elamessa]

Try visiting your friendly camping car dealer to see if they can help or use the help and contact section on the ANTS website.

 

[Northernraider]

I think most of the french registered motorhomes at 3.5t run overweight anyway

 

[Verteuil Man]

I think most of the french registered motorhomes at 3.5t run overweight anyway

I would day quite a few in the UK aswell. Because lots of people do it does not form a defense in law.

Your nicked son.

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[Widge]

It is difficult to have something non standard in France, what make is your camper, I would suggest contacting their representative in France to see what they suggest.

 

[Rob Turner]

Probably be easier to sell it and buy one on a heavy chassis

 

[Ridgeway]

If it’s anything like here in CH (I believe it is) then it’s a fairly straight forward process once you know the routine.

My learning was that it’s easier to get the MH dealer to do it and pay for the privilege, here’s it’s about £1200 at my dealer which includes new cartes gris, inspection at the service des automobiles, new road tax papers and informing the insurance etc

 

[Verteuil Man]

Slightly off tack. I heard that a French driving licence if you have the C1 entitlement does not expire at 70?

 

[jongood]

Hi everyone

Just been to the weighbridge and we need to up-plate our MoHo from 3.5t. Does anyone know how to do this in France, please? Also, does anyone know what the process might entail, how long it takes and how much it costs, please? I'm not bothered about the cost (just interested to find out) but would like to know how to go about it. Thank you so much

Please don't talk to me about licences or how to reduce the weight. I'm not asking about that Thanks

I suggest you ask a few people over there, most Camping Cariste's will advise you not to do it. The French definition of a 3500kgs CC is clearly quite different to ours. When in Rome......

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[Charente16]

Slightly off tack. I heard that a French driving licence if you have the C1 entitlement does not expire at 70?

Not sure about that! I lost my C1 Entitlement when I exchanged my UK licence for a French one back in 2012. When I received the actual licence and saw that the C catagory was empty I queried it with the 'Prefecture', as it was then. I was told that a 7.5 Ton Truck licence required a separate test as France did not have a sub - catagory to their 'C' licence. My wife still has her old 'Pink' licence which she got in 2008 and 'C' catagory is also Blank.

Certainly a UK car licence does not, or did not expire at 70, but if you live here you are supposed to have a French licence driving licence, so no real benefit.

Robert

 

[Widge]

Slightly off tack. I heard that a French driving licence if you have the C1 entitlement does not expire at 70?

If i understand it correctly you are correct, but it has to be accompanied by a valid medical certificate, renewable as follows.

Driver Age Term
Under 55 5 years

55 to 60 years 5 years or until the anniversary of 60 years

60 to 76 years 2 years or until the 76 year anniversary

Over 76 1 Year.

But as far as i am aware you dont loose the C1, if you dont renew the medical certificate but just cannot use it, but can use it again at a later date if you renew the medical certificate and (last time i did it) your licence.

 

[Nyvern]

Hi everyone

Just been to the weighbridge and we need to up-plate our MoHo from 3.5t. Does anyone know how to do this in France, please? Also, does anyone know what the process might entail, how long it takes and how much it costs, please? I'm not bothered about the cost (just interested to find out) but would like to know how to go about it. Thank you so much

Please don't talk to me about licences or how to reduce the weight. I'm not asking about that Thanks

Pour modifier votre PTAC, rapprochez-vous du constructeur de votre véhicule. Il vous confirmera que cette modification est faisable et vous fournira les documents ad hoc. Une DREAL ou une DRIEE doit ensuite valider la modification d'une donnée technique présente sur le certificat d'immatriculation.

 

[Verteuil Man]

Pour modifier votre PTAC, rapprochez-vous du constructeur de votre véhicule. Il vous confirmera que cette modification est faisable et vous fournira les documents ad hoc. Une DREAL ou une DRIEE doit ensuite valider la modification d'une donnée technique présente sur le certificat d'immatriculation.

Interesting and typically French. They love their paperwork.

 

[Spriddler]

what make is your camper,

Here's a clue..........

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[HKF]

Try visiting your friendly camping car dealer to see if they can help or use the help and contact section on the ANTS website.

Thank you. Unfortunately, I don't speak French and, apparently, the ANTS website spends more time down than up

 

[HKF]

Thank you to everyone who has replied. My MoHo is a Benimar Europe 740 on a Fiat Ducato chassis. As far as I'm aware, up-plating won't alter the specification. The reason MoHos like mine are restricted to 3500kg is so that more people can drive them due to restrictions on licences. I may be wrong but that's how I understood it to be.

 

[elamessa]

Thank you. Unfortunately, I don't speak French and, apparently, the ANTS website spends more time down than up

ANTS is working very well at the moment. You could also try These who also may be able to help and they have english speakers.

 

[HKF]

Not sure about that! I lost my C1 Entitlement when I exchanged my UK licence for a French one back in 2012. When I received the actual licence and saw that the C catagory was empty I queried it with the 'Prefecture', as it was then. I was told that a 7.5 Ton Truck licence required a separate test as France did not have a sub - catagory to their 'C' licence. My wife still has her old 'Pink' licence which she got in 2008 and 'C' catagory is also Blank.

Certainly a UK car licence does not, or did not expire at 70, but if you live here you are supposed to have a French licence driving licence, so no real benefit.

Robert

This is not true. We moved here before Brexit and have Withdrawal Agreement Residence Permits (WARP). Under the terms of the agreement, we are allowed to continue using our UK licences until they expire. Once they expire, we can apply for a French licence which will have exactly the same categories as we have now, including C1. That was part of the agreement and people applying for WARP residency were specifically advised to keep their UK licences for this very reason.

 

[HKF]

ANTS is working very well at the moment. You could also try These who also may be able to help and they have english speakers.

Thank you but my MoHo is already French registered and always has been. We bought it in France. We're not looking to register it here.

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[elamessa]

Thank you but my MoHo is already French registered and always has been. We bought it in France. We're not looking to register it here.

Yes I know that but your wanting to up-plate and I have given you contact details of people who  may be able to help.

 

[elamessa]

This is not true. We moved here before Brexit and have Withdrawal Agreement Residence Permits (WARP). Under the terms of the agreement, we are allowed to continue using our UK licences until they expire. Once they expire, we can apply for a French licence which will have exactly the same categories as we have now, including C1. That was part of the agreement and people applying for WARP residency were specifically advised to keep their UK licences for this very reason.

Unless you commit a traffic offence then you will need a French licence.

 

[Verteuil Man]

Thank you but my MoHo is already French registered and always has been. We bought it in France. We're not looking to register it here.

You could try calling Fiat Assistance. There should be a 08000 number on stickers in the side windows or somewhere in your paperwork. It takes you straight through Milan and are very helpful. I had a problem with a incorrect engine capacity on a V5. They called me from Milan everyday with an update then 5 days later I received a letter from Fiat UK to send to DVLA. All free. Then Benimar would be a good call.

 

[Charente16]

This is not true. We moved here before Brexit and have Withdrawal Agreement Residence Permits (WARP). Under the terms of the agreement, we are allowed to continue using our UK licences until they expire. Once they expire, we can apply for a French licence which will have exactly the same categories as we have now, including C1. That was part of the agreement and people applying for WARP residency were specifically advised to keep their UK licences for this very reason.

Fact, the word of the Gendarmrie outranks the 'WA'; how else are you going to accru those lovely Penalty Points if you don't have a French Driving licence. I only changed my licence after getting done for speeding,even then -2012 - the Prefecture was reluctant to exchange my licence, however the subsequent arrival of two Gendarmés on my doorstep ensured my increased vigor to obtain one.

Robert

 

[HKF]

Unless you commit a traffic offence then you will need a French licence.

That is absolutely NOT true under the Withdrawal Agreement.

"This principle of recognition remains valid for holders of UK driving licences issued before 1 January 2021, who do not therefore need to exchange their licence for a French licence, regardless of their nationality."

UK and France reach post-Brexit agreement on driving licences

UK licence holders living in France and French licence holders living in the UK whose licence was issued before 1 January 2021 may continue driving on their original valid driving licence.

uk.ambafrance.org

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