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ceejayt

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Chatting to a friend of mine who provides data services to broadcasters who have unlimited EU roaming deals for their work and was explaining the loss of the Tiekom offer.

He says he can secure the following for us, I may need a minimum number of people to sign up to it but here is the deal….

  1. Data only SIM, EU roaming
  2. £40 per annum provides 1GB per month
  3. After 1GB is used then an additional 100GB is immediately added at a cost of £99 inc VAT for the calendar month
  4. After that 100GB then another 100GB will be made available - possibly at a slightly lower cost, and so on
  5. All payments by direct debit
The way you would use this is to pop it in your device when you leave the UK - (pointless paying £99 in the UK for roaming) and lets say you are away for three months total cost for the year would be the £40 and three lots of £99, works out at less than £30 a month if you stick to the 100GB limit (which is the same as I was paying Tiekom monthly anyway)

Remember it only kicks in when you exceed the 1GB

The deal is with one of the top three providers but I won’t say who it is until I know there is sufficient interest to make it worthwhile. I am also just confirming it is 4G and 5G and no data throttling

I need simple YES or NO YOU MUST BE JOKING to get an idea of take up
 
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Good for sorting deal but it seems very expensive to me.
Ive the same as Lenny HB , will be testing it from Sunday
 
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We need to be careful here guys. The Tiekom SIM worked so well and was so popular because it was a proper data SIM at a very decent price.

Unlimited, 100Gb, 200Gb etc packages quoted by many are NOT data SIMs, they are phone SIMs and 99.9999% will have traffic shaping and restrictions on them. They of course will not tell you this as it ruins their competitive edge. If you go and find mobile broadband SIMs with full EU roaming, you’ll be VERY surprised at the cost.

Comparing apples with oranges, or in this case, data SIM with phone SIM is not a fair or accurate comparison…
 
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Is using some sort of group aggregation? Each SIM would typically have a dozen GB of roaming per month. But by grouping them, the data can be shared between SIMs? So I use several people's data while I'm away in May, but sometime else will use my allocation in October?

Regardless, it's an interesting idea. But the price does need to be lower as it's dangerously close to Starlink prices.
 
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Chatting to a friend of mine who provides data services to broadcasters who have unlimited EU roaming deals for their work and was explaining the loss of the Tiekom offer.

He says he can secure the following for us, I may need a minimum number of people to sign up to it but here is the deal….

  1. Data only SIM, EU roaming
  2. £40 per annum provides 1GB per month
  3. After 1GB is used then an additional 100GB is immediately added at a cost of £99 inc VAT for the calendar month
  4. After that 100GB then another 100GB will be made available - possibly at a slightly lower cost, and so on
  5. All payments by direct debit
The way you would use this is to pop it in your device when you leave the UK - (pointless paying £99 in the UK for roaming) and lets say you are away for three months total cost for the year would be the £40 and three lots of £99, works out at less than £30 a month if you stick to the 100GB limit (which is the same as I was paying Tiekom monthly anyway)

Remember it only kicks in when you exceed the 1GB

The deal is with one of the top three providers but I won’t say who it is until I know there is sufficient interest to make it worthwhile. I am also just confirming it is 4G and 5G and no data throttling

I need simple YES or NO YOU MUST BE JOKING to get an idea of take up
Have you bounced this idea off Motorhome Wifi ?
They are the main supplier of motorhome wifi kit and SIM packages in the UK, they are always looking for good deals.
The latest version of 'Which supplier is best' is here
It looks like they still think Smarty offer the best deal overall

But if they could be shown someone else can offer a better or comparable deal, then maybe the savings could be passed onto Funsters who sign up on-mass

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ceejayt

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Just confirming 4g and 5G and no throttling for those of us only able to spend 3 months a year in Europe it is the same price as Tiekom for a year so surprised at the negatives.

Starlink won’t work while mobile and I don’t believe any of these deals won’t have fair usage or throttling on them. This is a genuine commercial deal and won’t suddenly be withdrawn like Tiekom and uses the same networks the journalists use for data and video reporting round the world.

Hey ho, you can take a horse to water …
 
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Just confirming 4g and 5G and no throttling for those of us only able to spend 3 months a year in Europe it is the same price as Tiekom for a year so surprised at the negatives.

Starlink won’t work while mobile and I don’t believe any of these deals won’t have fair usage or throttling on them. This is a genuine commercial deal and won’t suddenly be withdrawn like Tiekom and uses the same networks the journalists use for data and video reporting round the world.

Hey ho, you can take a horse to water …
I think it's worth exploring the idea, but it needs to be 'packaged' in a way to attract motorhome use.
Hence you may be better off talking to one of the existing motorhome communications providers.

I used to make a lot of money putting deals like this together back before the internet destroyed the industry.
Our company would be making between 1p and 5p per message being sent from London to HK, and that was a lot of messages, all day every day.
 
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Have you bounced this idea off Motorhome Wifi ?
They are the main supplier of motorhome wifi kit and SIM packages in the UK, they are always looking for good deals.
The latest version of 'Which supplier is best' is here
It looks like they still think Smarty offer the best deal overall

But if they could be shown someone else can offer a better or comparable deal, then maybe the savings could be passed onto Funsters who sign up on-mass
I will chat to Adam
 
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Have you bounced this idea off Motorhome Wifi ?
They are the main supplier of motorhome wifi kit and SIM packages in the UK, they are always looking for good deals.
The latest version of 'Which supplier is best' is here
It looks like they still think Smarty offer the best deal overall

But if they could be shown someone else can offer a better or comparable deal, then maybe the savings could be passed onto Funsters who sign up on-mass
Currently approaching the end of a 4 week trip through Europe, and have used my Smarty sim in a Huawei 5576 MiFi throughout without problem. Having used up my 12Gb fair useage allowance from my £10 a month 60Gb deal, I bought an extra 15Gb add-on from Smarty for £14, which has no expiry limitations. I have been streaming TV, using WiFi for Waze, texting, WhatsApping etc. all without problem and never had problems with signal. Have my mobile phone with GiffGaff (4Gb/£8 month) as a backup. Smarty works for me at a decent price.
 
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Currently approaching the end of a 4 week trip through Europe, and have used my Smarty sim in a Huawei 5576 MiFi throughout without problem. Having used up my 12Gb fair useage allowance from my £10 a month 60Gb deal, I bought an extra 15Gb add-on from Smarty for £14, which has no expiry limitations. I have been streaming TV, using WiFi for Waze, texting, WhatsApping etc. all without problem and never had problems with signal. Have my mobile phone with GiffGaff (4Gb/£8 month) as a backup. Smarty works for me at a decent price.
For me, it’s just the faff. Switching SIMS watching g data count. Get a grandchild on board with any kind of streaming device and you can kiss your fair usage limit goodbye I want a simple, single SIM in my motorhome Wi-Fi kit, fit and forget
 

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I think its all about doing your homework and what works for you. A local sim gives me what I need for less money. Pros and cons for us all I guess.

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I think Starlink Roam (formerly RV?) has ‘in motion‘ capability?
(assuming that’s what was meant by ‘mobile’?)
to have it truely mobile you do have to have the flat dish tech on the van roof, $$$$ sees more of the sky, otherwise you only get connected properly when stopped.
 
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enough to know i shouldnt touch things i know nothing about ....
For me it's a no as I don't often venture outside of France and the Free offer of €30 for 210gb to be used within one month seems to be the best option for me.

But thanks for trying to sort out some sort of package deal, best wishes.
 

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For the last 4 years I used a Vodafone unlimited sim which gave us up to 100Gb/month and seemingly free of any cap/usuage restrictions when we went abroad. It started out at £20/month but I ended it last year when it rose to £27/month. Most months it was lightly used but in July and August we would often use the whole 100Gb abroad

In theory thats £0.20 to £0.27 per Gb.. the proposal is £1.33 per Gb for the first 101Gb, and whilst the next 100Gb might be cheaper, it would have to be a lot cheaper. I applaud the idea and the initiative. It would be great if we could club together to get a data sim sorted - I struggle keep up with all the different deals and who's good value and who isn't.... but this bit confuses me

"...lets say you are away for three months total cost for the year would be the £40 and three lots of £99, works out at less than £30 a month if you stick to the 100GB limit"

This only works if you dont require any data whatsoever for the other 9 months of the year ? Its over £100 per month for 3 months plus any costs incurred for the rest of the year, or have I missed something ?
 
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I went with a popit sim in preparation for our grand tour. Then along came RWG with more data for less money but already paid for popit.
So we will see how we go and watch the reports back from the alternative.

This proposed deal is too expensive for me because I can live without internet and streaming TV for a few days.
I accept that there may be all sorts of restrictions placed on phone sims but I should be able to live with that.

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This video proves you wrong, he has the dish fixed on their roof. (y)


yeah , hes botched it, and voided his warranty, has to 3d print a bracket, and possibly be blocked soon.

the real flat dish(and router) is $$$ and twice as big, pulls far more satelite info in...less drop outs...is double the wattage and legal.

That said, once you are on the move , the priority given to portable data no matter which "roaming" kit you have is 2nd prority to home service users. So if traffic is heavy you WILL be downgraded.
DO i think the large flat is worth it for Mhome use, NO !...sea faring boats yes, they are seldom under trees :) and wont get best effort mode, and now there are that many satellites, then the dish being off some degrees on the old small dish doesnt hardly matter.
 
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For the last 4 years I used a Vodafone unlimited sim which gave us up to 100Gb/month and seemingly free of any cap/usuage restrictions when we went abroad. It started out at £20/month but I ended it last year when it rose to £27/month. Most months it was lightly used but in July and August we would often use the whole 100Gb abroad

In theory thats £0.20 to £0.27 per Gb.. the proposal is £1.33 per Gb for the first 101Gb, and whilst the next 100Gb might be cheaper, it would have to be a lot cheaper. I applaud the idea and the initiative. It would be great if we could club together to get a data sim sorted - I struggle keep up with all the different deals and who's good value and who isn't.... but this bit confuses me

"...lets say you are away for three months total cost for the year would be the £40 and three lots of £99, works out at less than £30 a month if you stick to the 100GB limit"

This only works if you dont require any data whatsoever for the other 9 months of the year ? Its over £100 per month for 3 months plus any costs incurred for the rest of the year, or have I missed something ?
Missing the point. Use a U.K. sim while in U.K. then only paying for the 100gb while in Europe
 
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If you go abroad just once t for a two week holiday it might look expensive at £99 but you ONLY incur a charge if you decide to use it. We will probably go to Europe 3 times this year. Total cost £337 if we use it (which we will). As I say cheaper than the £360 I was paying Tiekom for year round use.
 
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I don’t understand your maths technique one bit , so you use it for 3 months it costs you £337 and that’s for only 100gb each month which is not a lot, spreading the cost over 12 months makes no sense as you are not using it but will be paying for something else. However you dress it up it’s expensive.
I bought a Lobster sim in Spain and got 60 gb for £20,
 

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RWG data sim 200gb is £18/month, they also go a global SIM - 700 networks extra £10

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